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[CSM] December Summit - Little things - FW, Wormholes

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Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-11-23 16:25:00 UTC
Please discuss issues related to this session in this thread. We look forward to your comments and suggestions.

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Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#2 - 2011-11-23 16:37:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Two step
Remember, this is *little* things. I am still working on my personal list, here is what is on it so far:

1) Shields on ships out of a SMA/entering a Pulsar/joining a fleet
2) Better system than POS passwords for POS access (same UI as chat channels, would be awesome)
3) Capital SMAs allowed in w-space
4) Cans in corp hangers. Should be able to name them, open them, put stuff in them
5) Rename all POS structures
6) Randomness in sleeper spawns
7) Don't change sig ids after DT - Edit: This was done with crucible!
8) Capital ship SD timers

CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
MNagy
Yo-Mama
#3 - 2011-11-23 16:51:40 UTC
1. If every person had their own special 'tab' within a Corporate Hanger - you would get around having everything all jumbled up and a billion containers everywhere.
Basically (All Current Corp Hangers) + 1 Personal Hanger Tab.
You cannot access your Personal Tab if you dont have security to the hanger.

2. Ship Maint Bay should work the same. A Corp Tab of all ships - and a personal Tab of just your own stuff. If you do not have security for the Ship Maint Bay, then you cannot access your 'Personal Tab' out of it either.

Its very hard from keeping your personal items and ships from getting mish mashed between all corp members. Stuff goes missing/replaced all the time.

A "Personal Tab" added to the regular corp divisions tabs would solve the problem.


3. Allow any structure to be RENAMED. - Its very hard to set security to a structure when you do not know the name of it cause they are all the same name.

4. Signature Changes after downtime - must rescan all the time to find out whats new.

5. Copying bookmarks is still very cumbersom as you need to pull the bookmark to your own cargohold and then to your bookmarks, then copy back and put back. There should be something simple to just "right click" on bookmarks ( a tonne of bookmarks ) and say "Copy to My Bookmarks" or something.

6. Onlining and offlining a pos - there should be something like a 30 min or an Hour Cue. So you can anchor a tonne of structures and then make a cue for 'onlining them' so you can walk away for a bit. Those structures are all within the shields anyway so who cares if you are 'watching' them online or not. Watching stuff online 2-3 minutes online makes you feel like taking a hammer to your head.

7. Why cannot I jump through a wormhole when I just entered a fleet?

8. Security needs a bit of an overhaul - but the above are my 7 issues.
Drackarn
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#4 - 2011-11-23 16:59:29 UTC
OK - What's FW doing in little things?

Point for discussion - Take FW out of "Little Things" and fix it properly (see numerous threadnaughts on the subject in General Discussion or the many blog posts).

I admit I'm a FW fan boi and therfore biased.... but as I recall, a certain CEO stated "Factional warfare needs to be fixed." in his open letter to the community last month.

FW isn't going to get fixed within "Little Things"

Drackarn
Faction War Fan Boi ;)

http://sandciderandspaceships.blogspot.com/
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#5 - 2011-11-23 17:03:58 UTC
Drackarn wrote:
OK - What's FW doing in little things?

Point for discussion - Take FW out of "Little Things" and fix it properly (see numerous threadnaughts on the subject in General Discussion or the many blog posts).

I admit I'm a FW fan boi and therfore biased.... but as I recall, a certain CEO stated "Factional warfare needs to be fixed." in his open letter to the community last month.

FW isn't going to get fixed within "Little Things"

Drackarn
Faction War Fan Boi ;)


FW both needs little things and a larger overhaul. Until CCP is willing to commit resources to that larger overhaul, they would like to fix as many smaller FW issues as they can.

CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
Raid'En
#6 - 2011-11-23 17:19:45 UTC
you forgot swapping tech3 subsystems on pos
Cujoo Ell
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2011-11-23 19:16:22 UTC
Raid'En wrote:
you forgot swapping tech3 subsystems on pos


Yeah this would be really appreciated Big smile
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-11-23 19:41:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertisce Soritenshi
#4 from MNagy is probably the most important WH fix request and doesn't only apply to WH space...it is also here...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19266&find=unread

Static sig ID's after downtime!

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
#9 - 2011-11-23 19:51:27 UTC
Repackaging/stacking stuff in cargo hangars would be nice.
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-11-24 03:38:35 UTC
The mechanics of WH space work very well - the things that *don't* work well in WH space are the same things that don't work well in K space:

Pos Mechanics, BM's, T3 subsystem changes, those types of things.

As far as I'm concerned, fix those (and CORP BM'S ARE A BIG FIX!) and WH's are fine.

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Jared Reidel
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#11 - 2011-11-24 06:06:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Jared Reidel
Gempei
Marvinovi pratele
#12 - 2011-11-24 09:24:46 UTC
MNagy wrote:
1. If every person had their own special 'tab' within a Corporate Hanger - you would get around having everything all jumbled up and a billion containers everywhere.
Basically (All Current Corp Hangers) + 1 Personal Hanger Tab.
You cannot access your Personal Tab if you dont have security to the hanger.

2. Ship Maint Bay should work the same. A Corp Tab of all ships - and a personal Tab of just your own stuff. If you do not have security for the Ship Maint Bay, then you cannot access your 'Personal Tab' out of it either.

Its very hard from keeping your personal items and ships from getting mish mashed between all corp members. Stuff goes missing/replaced all the time.

A "Personal Tab" added to the regular corp divisions tabs would solve the problem.


3. Allow any structure to be RENAMED. - Its very hard to set security to a structure when you do not know the name of it cause they are all the same name.

4. Signature Changes after downtime - must rescan all the time to find out whats new.

5. Copying bookmarks is still very cumbersom as you need to pull the bookmark to your own cargohold and then to your bookmarks, then copy back and put back. There should be something simple to just "right click" on bookmarks ( a tonne of bookmarks ) and say "Copy to My Bookmarks" or something.

6. Onlining and offlining a pos - there should be something like a 30 min or an Hour Cue. So you can anchor a tonne of structures and then make a cue for 'onlining them' so you can walk away for a bit. Those structures are all within the shields anyway so who cares if you are 'watching' them online or not. Watching stuff online 2-3 minutes online makes you feel like taking a hammer to your head.

7. Why cannot I jump through a wormhole when I just entered a fleet?

8. Security needs a bit of an overhaul - but the above are my 7 issues.


all this!
Ioqua
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#13 - 2011-11-24 09:45:48 UTC
Static Sig ID's is an interesting one, Not sure of the techncial details of why the SIG ID's change after DT but keeping them static until the sig actually expires would be frankly game changing and brilliant to both WH life and Exploration in general.

And bump for everything above especially T3 refitting at POS's and Shield ships not coming out of an SMA at a massive disadvantage to an armor ship.
Serpentine Logic
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2011-11-24 13:35:25 UTC
Fw complex respawn timers. Please dont have them reset.at the same time each day.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-11-24 19:04:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Rek Seven
UPDATED


Arrow Signature ID’s should not change after DT
Arrow The deadspace signature around WH’s should be removed
Arrow Shields should be at 100% when boarding a new ship in the SMA
Arrow We should be able to restrict access to the SMA by member
Arrow Allow us to swap subsystems in WH space
Arrow Sleepers should roam WH space (camp WH’s, warp randomly into grav/ladar sites and maybe attack pos’s)
Arrow There should be a RARE chance of Ice grav site spawns in WH space
Arrow Remove the penalty to refining arrays in WH space
Arrow Add a ship that has the ability to hold a WH open past it’s time limit (Full idea upcoming)

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Stralow
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-11-25 00:00:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Stralow
See the status of your drones in drone hangar. Would be nice to see how healty my little fellows are, so that i can decide to launch not the damaged one.

Would love to see some ice belts in WH space. Not unlimited for sure. But as an sig with ammount of x.

i say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. it's the only way to be sure
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#17 - 2011-11-25 01:04:20 UTC
MNagy wrote:
1. If every person had their own special 'tab' within a Corporate Hanger - you would get around having everything all jumbled up and a billion containers everywhere.


One idea could be to introduce a "Personal Hangar Array". This array is different to the CHA simply in that it provides an "infinite" number of hangar divisions unique to the capsuleer viewing the content, with only one access rule. Directors and POS Operators would be able to access all items in a PHA, and get an inventory of who is storing stuff in the PHA. The PHA would be able to store assembled ships alongside other items, and provide a fitting service.

The PHA would have one fixed volume. Everyone using the PHA would see the same "volume used" indicator, so everyone knows just how much they can shove into the PHA.

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Bomberlocks
Bombercorp
#18 - 2011-11-25 01:12:10 UTC
Trebor, Two Step, please go though Hans Jagerblitzen's thread on FW improvements carefully, so that there is no wasted effort on FW.
Tahna Rouspel
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2011-11-25 04:17:26 UTC
Can we get Ice mining sites in wormholes?
I think it was an over-sight.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#20 - 2011-11-25 08:10:18 UTC
I think the POS overhaul (I think i'm refering to the modular POS idea...) would pretty much be buffing WH stuff.

T3 Fitting at POSs

Individualized Hangars

Better management of access to hangars/towers themselves, etc





FW Stuff:

Remove the after DT shuffle, replace with more regular spawning mechanics of plexes

Incentives for Occupancy
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