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Where does faction modules (pithii, corpi etc) drop for shields?
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Metamonic
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#1 - 2014-01-10 14:48:40 UTC
I've farmed some complexes now in Amarr space for a while and I've been lucky (or persistant) enough to get a few armor modules and armor rep that I'm quite happy about. Now I would like to get my hands on some shield hardeners and shield boosters too if possible. Thinking that the armor drops fits the Amarr doctrines would explain why I only find armor Amarr space, and if that is true, do I only need to relocate base of operations to find shield modules?
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#2 - 2014-01-10 14:57:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
those are deadspace modules.

Small shield deadspace modules come from guristas (pithi) and angels (gisti).

The only small deadspace shield modules are the small boosters and the small remote shield transfers.

They come from 1/10, 2/10, and 3/10 rated deadspace complexes, and as the rewards of some escalation chains from unrated combat plexes from hisec (and now also lowsec), such as Watches, vigils, etc. Note that combat anomalies have a low chance to escalate to DED-rated complex.

You need core probes to find those sites in hisec and lowsec.

Faction modules, are denoted as shadow serpentis, dark blood, true sansha, domination, or dread gurista. They come from 'commander spawns' aka 'faction spawns,' that can occur in anomalies, asteroid belts, or in combat plexes (either DED or Unrated) found from cosmic signatures.

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Metamonic
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#3 - 2014-01-10 15:02:56 UTC
Yeah deadspace complexes... this is not the right forum for those? =)

Anyway, thanks for the answer, so its just a matter of hanging out in the parts of space where I can find guristas and angels then. I'll find that quickly
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#4 - 2014-01-10 15:04:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
Metamonic wrote:
Yeah deadspace complexes... this is not the right forum for those? =)


This is Missions & Complexes so it is the correct forum to discuss those.

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Tali'zorrah
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#5 - 2014-01-10 15:08:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tali'zorrah
You can find Guristas in the following regions:
for High/low sec:
Black Rise, Lonetrek, The Citadel, The Forge
for Null sec:
Tenal, Branch, Venal, Deklein, Pure Blind, Geminate, Vale of the Silent, Tribute

and you can find Angels in the following:
for High/low Sec:
Heimatar, Metropolis, Molden Heath
for Null sec:
Impass, Feythabolis, Omist, Tenerifis, Immensea, Curse, Scalding Pass, Wicked Creek, Detorid, Insmother, Great Wildlands, Cache


In all of these regions you can find the appropriate Anomalies and Signatures for the faction that resides in them.
Metamonic
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#6 - 2014-01-10 15:17:40 UTC
Very nice list of regions, thanks for sharing.

Since we are on the topic, I pimped out an assault frigate for those places where I cant bring a strategic cruiser. Since I already had good armor modules, I just had to buy some small cap recharger and small afterburner and fit a Retribution. The fit is very slim using almost 100% power and tf, so I'm quite happy with it. Now, is this a good choice for 3/10 or is there something even more extreme than Assault Frigate for clearing them restricted sites faster? (I have to admit, I didn't even look closer on what those gates allow)
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#7 - 2014-01-10 15:37:02 UTC
a HAC or faction cruiser is the ship of choice as they can enter 4/10s (which appear in both hisec and lowsec and are generally the most valuable) and have high dps. A well fit AF should be able to handle everything pretty well, although EM damage is rather bad against both angels and guristas. You may find yourself getting 'beaten' in 4/10s by more experienced explorers flying non-t3 cruisers, but the competition is much lower for 1/10-3/10 and other unrated hisec plexes (which again since rubicon can be found in lowsec).

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Metamonic
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#8 - 2014-01-10 19:29:23 UTC
Some nice A-Type information again, thanks a lot. If a Heavy Assault Cruiser fits in the 3/10's that would clearly be the ship of choice.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#9 - 2014-01-10 19:36:00 UTC
This is old but still relevant for the most part. 1-6/10 now appear in low, additional ship restrictions, etc.

A HAC would serve you better in 3/10s and 4/10s. If you're looking for shield mods, look at a Sac; lasers are bad against both Angels and Guristas.
Metamonic
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#10 - 2014-01-10 19:56:43 UTC
That is a very informative post you wrote before, although some might be thrown off by its age. You should update it, or even make a wiki entry of it =)

Well done
Mnemosyne Gloob
#11 - 2014-01-11 01:45:45 UTC
Metamonic wrote:
Now I would like to get my hands on some shield hardeners


Seeing as you wrote pithii in the title - you can't get shield hardeners in this category.

shields and armor are a bit different.

small shield modules don't have resistance mods at all, whereas armor has platings.
medium shield modules give you amplifiers, which are passive (and also the invuls, which are not passive and imo a bit out of place here if we just follow the nomenclature), medium armor modules give you energized membranes, including eanm.
large shield mods give active shield hardeners, as will armor give active armor hardeners.

So, if as you say, you want shield hardeners, you need to go to nullsec (7-10 DED complexes drop large mods and those are found in nullsec). Or you do Annexes in lowsec and their expedition (to nullsec usually) to get c-type large modules.
Tali'zorrah
Unicornucopia
#12 - 2014-01-11 02:50:29 UTC
In terms of what ship is best that would largely depend on your skills, i personally used a Gila for high sec exploration since it can field a full flight of sentry drones and as such does respectably damage with selectable damage types. (and i didnt have Gallente cruiser V yet...)
and an AF (again, which one depends on the enemy you are facing and your skills) for the 2/10 or lower sites.

Cruisers can enter 3/10 or higher sites btw.

Its also worth noting that carrying a Mobile depot with you allows you to switch on the fly for more damage or more tank or the ability to run relic and data sites. this means you can dedicate your fit to the site you intend to run, and ofcourse as such be more effective at that particular site. (no more fitting analyzers when running DED sites ^^)
Metamonic
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#13 - 2014-01-12 20:06:51 UTC
Mnemosyne Gloob wrote:
Metamonic wrote:
Now I would like to get my hands on some shield hardeners


Seeing as you wrote pithii in the title - you can't get shield hardeners in this category.

shields and armor are a bit different.

small shield modules don't have resistance mods at all, whereas armor has platings.
medium shield modules give you amplifiers, which are passive (and also the invuls, which are not passive and imo a bit out of place here if we just follow the nomenclature), medium armor modules give you energized membranes, including eanm.
large shield mods give active shield hardeners, as will armor give active armor hardeners.

So, if as you say, you want shield hardeners, you need to go to nullsec (7-10 DED complexes drop large mods and those are found in nullsec). Or you do Annexes in lowsec and their expedition (to nullsec usually) to get c-type large modules.


You are right, I actually knew and wondered why the small versions (those that reside in highsec) were missing from the Shield Hardners but didnt make the connection that it was indicative of where they drop. Well, that was a bit disappointing, but I guess I can still aim for small shield boosters for my miners.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-01-13 05:41:22 UTC
All good info in this thread.

I'd like to add one more option for you to consider.

Just continue collecting up the small Faction / Deadspace mods you're currently getting and after a while sell them to buy the other mods that you actually want. Basically it's no ISK out of your wallet. It's more like a barter system with the Market as the middle man.


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Tauranon
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CAStabouts
#15 - 2014-01-13 06:04:13 UTC
Metamonic wrote:


You are right, I actually knew and wondered why the small versions (those that reside in highsec) were missing from the Shield Hardners but didnt make the connection that it was indicative of where they drop. Well, that was a bit disappointing, but I guess I can still aim for small shield boosters for my miners.


Gurista scout outpost (highsec), and Angel cartel occupied mining colony (highsec) have passive single resist pieces for shields and an invuln field.

I wouldn't however stick deadspace shield mods on barges or exhumers for simple reason is that they increase the number of ships that can be used to economically gank your ships more than they increase protection.

If you have a task that needs -moar tank-, should just use procurer or skiff.
Metamonic
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#16 - 2014-01-13 09:03:17 UTC
Tauranon wrote:

I wouldn't however stick deadspace shield mods on barges or exhumers for simple reason is that they increase the number of ships that can be used to economically gank your ships more than they increase protection.

If you have a task that needs -moar tank-, should just use procurer or skiff.


Thanks for the advice, and I understand that I came off as a highsec miner. I did however return from null just recently with my whole mining fleet and out there, getting a good tank on your alts was imperative. I wouldn't dream of putting anything valuable on them in Highsec =)