Player Features and Ideas Discussion

For someone boasting with supreme posting abilities, it's really amusing to see how you struggle with your reading.
I'll help you, being in a helpful mood and all.
Nobody claimed that only the drones cause lag. Nobody says that any other issue causing lag shouldn't be addressed, since they do. This thread was opened by stating a certain issue - the lag caused by thousands of sentry drones in grid, even with local counts as low as a couple of hundreds. All the rest of dumb grunts coming here and writing about nerfing this or nerfing that are actually of your mindless sort that can't read nor write while staying on topic, i expect you treat them with understanding due to similarity.

Nobody is obliged by supplying YOU with 'proofs' of any sort, this is not Kugu, you must be mistaken. While the proof for CCP can be supplied from their own GMs coming to clean up the mess you left in-grid, when petitioned, in practically an empty system. I personally remember at least one such occasion, and i am sure there were more, so you can consider the 'material evidence' part covered.
While for the rest of the things you specify, as lags caused by other objects/subjects - they should be addressed and fixed as well, they must. In fact, I demand it! Just start a relevant thread for each, and I'll come chant "GRR Fix Goons!" with you.

OK, lets focus first on lag without any balance changes. CCP doesn't like to spend time on important issues anyway.

First, we need to decrease number of launched drones. The easiest temporary measure is to limit them to 5 but give double damage bonus. No HP bonuses because nobody shoots at sentries anyway - they are killed with bombs. And to keep the balance we can't increase the number of bombs required, right?

But even after this drones can cause extreme TD if they are constantly launched and abandoned. If they just decay in say 5 minutes it won't help because you can abandon enough in 1 minute (server time not real time) to make this 5 minutes last 5 hours. So we need to limit abandon feature in a similar way to reconnect to probes - allow it say every 5 minutes. Of course drones can be left behind in other ways like relogging or rewarping but this takes much more time than 1 button click.

Of course it would be better to make drones affect performance the same way fitted guns do, but CCP needs time to work on more important stuff...

Fix sentry drone assist on carriers
and fix drone lags

The 'Blobfest' is part of the unique attraction of Eve: The ability(used loosely as the servers aren't always able) to escalate and fight to an indeterminate point, either by number of people involved, length of engagement, 'teams' involved, etc. is in my opinion, a huge part of what makes Eve, Eve.

Drones are certainly a significant portion of it. If the Jita undock had as many drones on it as what can be deployed during some of these fights, that node would probably struggle hard too. They're certainly not the only part, but a significant part. Part of that drone problem is definitely the massive drone bay's of carriers. Part of it the usage of Sentry domi's. Part of it drone assists. Other parts of the lag are most certainly the bombs going off in those swarms of drones, of ships, part of it the bubbles.... *insert on and on and on list*


Drones aren't the only problem. They DO, however, seem to be the most direct source of lag, and one of the biggest problem mechanics in Eve's 'Blobfest' at the moment. Fixing drones won't fix all of it by any stretch, but it is likely it will fix a large portion of it. And hopefully deal with the problematic 'Drone assist' issue at the same time.

fix drone lag!

uaaaaaaaaaau .. tears ... so delicious

nom nom nom


anyway, on a more serious note.
CCP nerfed areaDD at goons request, because, well, goons could not win.
CCP nerfed sensor boosters at goons request, well, you know, old vets like BoB could pwn them too far away since they didn't had the skills :THEHORROR:..

Then goons discover that NANO was too much, they where getting owned left and right in their ratting pastures. :cry cry cry: and CCP nerfs.

Goons jump into a system bubbled? too many bubbles? NO PROBLEMO, batphone CCP they will remove them for us.

Now getting owned by sentry drones .. what do to? lemme see.. AH YES! let's bat phone CCP once more. ALWAYS WORKED IN THE PAST why not once more?

Next on the cry list: REMOVE caps from game, since goons out number everyone, it's game over for everyone else.

Then, remove MWD, make sure hostiles cant run away.

Why not nerf skilling speed? OLDER chars like SirMolle etc can skill SLOWER so goons and buddies catch up?

Why not make WARP BUBBLES affect only the hostiles and NOT those that are blue to the bubble owner? Goons love sabres..