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Looking for advice: How do I become a warlord?

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-01-08 05:58:55 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
(who says using capitals to gank a lone industrial is overkill?).



Anybody who hasn't played "lets visit the proctologist" with PL and their supers.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Kristina Rin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-01-08 08:00:14 UTC
i want to be famous like Chribba !

2014 !!!

rmb berserker
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-01-08 08:16:10 UTC
screaming,begging and cry!Blink
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#24 - 2014-01-08 08:18:27 UTC
Find a religion malleable to your goals

or

Form a religion malleable to others

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-01-08 08:30:03 UTC
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:
Be a woman.


No thats more like a Whorelord but nice try:P
Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-01-08 09:00:44 UTC
isnt it lord of war?

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back

Brendan Anneto
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#27 - 2014-01-08 09:21:57 UTC
Suck mittens off and he might let you command a rifter fleet. * Go forth my minions Attack the bestower....

I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your terror comes, When your terror comes like a storm, And your destruction comes like a whirlwind, When distress and anguish come upon you.   Proverbs 1:26-27

Heshee
Doomheim
#28 - 2014-01-08 16:31:49 UTC
Change your name to Mohammed and move to Somalia.
Frank Millar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-01-08 16:50:13 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Hello.

I would really like your advice.

I EVE, how do I become a warlord who orders forces to attack structures and conquers regions?

I want to advance my forces onto enemies, and have them submit to me or be crushed.

Do I need to go to sov null to accomplish this, or are there plenty of opportunities to become an armchair general in NPC null and lowsec?

So, joining Goonswarm didn't work out, I suppose?

0/10
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2014-01-08 17:09:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Trii Seo
Step one would be to purchase, or otherwise acquire an axe. Size, mind you, irrelevant - what matters are decorations, you might want some spikes and engraved runes for the added "fine craftsmanship" factor. Avoid gemstones like plague they make you look like some sort of bourgeois king and you will just get your head chopped off. For additional impression factor, chop some people up and get some blood stains on it.

Step two would be to find a large crowd in proximity of an elevated surface (preferably vacant, in case they are not - you have an axe, chop away at whoever is refusing to vacate them), stand on said surface and scream in a loud manner, waving your newly acquired axe to gain some attention from the plebs below you. Language is irrelevant, if they listen they will listen to just about anything if they don't - you might as well speak swahili.

Step three, only to be executed once a suitable crowd is gathered and listening is to find an appropriate enemy. It is a tricky one, since you need to judge their strength as slightly inferior to yours - so that you may honourably beat the crap out of them - while not too inferior since you still want to retain some impression factor from defeating a worthy foe.

Once all steps are completed, keep screaming and point your axe at the crowd recognized as hostile, if you want to mix things up wave it a little in a threatening manner. If you've done your job right, the mob you've gathered should assault the other mob, preferably beating the crap out of them. In case it doesn't happen, and the hostile mob is the one left standing - exit stage, left (possibly blaming the other side for blobbing) - that mob was **** anyway.

Proud pilot of the Imperium

Arek'Jaalan: Heliograph

Nuela
WoT Misfits
#31 - 2014-01-08 17:16:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Nuela
Well...I have asked myself the same question...well *I* don't want to be an evil Overlord...it sounds like too much work...but I have asked myself the question as to why certain leaders seem to attract followers and others don't. It's been years since I did this so may not remember my thoughts well but here goes.

- You have to be a good tactician/planner/whatever. This won't MAKE you an Evil Overlord...but you have to be good at what you do so others recognize this. There are usually many good tacticians out there but they don't attract people to them.

- As another poster has said...once you are really good you need a 'personality'. It is like teaching. If you look at the really good teachers you had in your life during mandatory education (High School and below) the really good teachers were good teachers AND had a strong personality. It almost doesn't matter what this personality is so long as it is strong. It usually takes the form of 'loveable quirks' and viewpoints.

- You can be an 'evil' Overlord or a 'good' one...it doesn't matter so long as the personality is strong. However, if you go the 'Evil' route you must make the men under your command part of your inner circle. Make fun of that OTHER guy so all your men can smirk and revel in evilness. It is perfectly ok to make fun of men under your command but do so in a non evil way...picking on some 'flaw' that isn't so bad and needling them. It helps if the flaw is actually a strength...(NUELA don't be planning so damn much again...just run screaming into the fight for a change!). Note, this is dangerous and hard because if they sense you are doing this..and people are good at sensing this...you will come across like a pathetic loser.

- You need to be on voice coms in order to project this personality. You need to be talking and talk often and in a way that people like to listen. In other words you need charisma. If you don't have it, like me, you will never be an Evil Overlord but if you do have charisma it still takes work as mentioned in the previous point.

- You must have a good 'radio' voice. If you do not have this, you are boned.

- You must be on often. If you have a job then you can still have that job but you still need to be on often and at a predictable times. This way your horde can do things when you not on but know when you will be.

- You must always take charge when you come online (and so need an alt for when you just want to chill). When you come on THINGS WILL BE DONE. There is PURPOSE when you are online.

- Always remember in games people follow you because they want to. People do things you want because they want to. This is that charisma things again...if you have to force people to do things you won't be an Evil Overlord for long.

- Your men come first. They are always right and you stand by them and defend them.

- However, sometimes your men are wrong. ALWAYS PRAISE IN PUBLIC AND SCOLD IN PRIVATE. If you have to correct behavior, you do so 1 on 1.

- If someone screws up remember and convey to your men that life is like American Football. Sometimes you fumble the ball. That's bad, but it happens. You will get the ball again.

- Evil Overlords need to win. If you lose/fail too many times in a row...well...people don't like losing. However, the occassional bad spell is good for finding who your stronger followers are - the ones who don't desert if things aren't peachy.\

Good Luck!
Jill Chastot
WE FORM BL0B Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2014-01-08 18:16:14 UTC
Brendan Anneto wrote:
Suck mittens off and he might let you command a rifter fleet. * Go forth my minions Attack the bestower....


As long as you promise not to command other fleets to drop and recall drones while logging in and outLol

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=298596&find=unread OATHS wants you. Come to the WH "Safety in eve is the greatest fallacy you will ever encounter. Once you accept this you will truely enjoy this game."

Miette Hartley
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-01-08 18:33:56 UTC
Play the game for a couple years.

Based on reading some unofficial EVE forums and news sites and observing the curious creatures that post there and claim to be human, I can say that it's a major bonus to also be a complete shitter in real life. That way, you can be state supported = available for EVE every hour of every day, every day of every month, and every month of every year. Now, you might think that being a leader of an alliance in EVE actually demands leadership ability or any number of other traits. Don't be fooled.

All you need is time and a revolving door for people willing to deal with both your own ****** personality and everyone in your future space empire's random day-to-day drama for you. When you get robbed, rage and rant for a couple days, then get right back on the horse. After all, you're a warlord. Just remember: Intelligence, wisdom, patience, intuition, charisma, being able to write and vocalize above the level of a pre-schooler - these are all entirely optional traits.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-01-08 18:58:41 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Become charismatic forum troll.

Gain lots of followers.

....stuff....

....stuff....

....stuff....


Take over the universe.


Its an incomplete plan right now, but im telling you...im halfway to my first milemarker part way to the midway point of step 1.

Nobody trains charisma.

Hm, I'll make a character named "Lots of" and declare myself your follower. Will that be sufficent for achieveing point 2?

Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.

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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#35 - 2014-01-08 19:06:20 UTC
i find the correlation between the OPs avatar and his question rather humorous for some reason.
Daedlus Caine
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-01-08 19:19:43 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Step 1: Project a persona that is crazy yet mostly likeable. We're talking the kind of "crazy yet likeable" that builds pseudo-cults.

Step 2: Create an "inner circle" of people that can support, cheer lead, or (at the very least) tolerate your colorful, yet predictable insanity. Just make sure that they are all within "leg breaking distance" in real life (or buy them a few beers... whichever is less messy).

Step 3: Accept that not everyone will like you and punish offenders accordingly.

Step 4: Never bite off more than you can chew. At the same time, never make promises you can't keep. Failure reeks of weakness (unless you can make that weakness your strength).

Step 5: Delegate, delegate, delegate. Being a warlord means you will be busy most of the time making threats and being insane. If you can accomplish a task by sending a rookie into the fire... do it. No need to get your own hands messy.

Step 6: Keep things interesting for everyone. Have your close supporters bring in or build a bunch of ships for "suicide fleets" or kill an underling/ally in dishonorable combat... just because.

Step 7: Money is power. Make shrewd deals with allies and enemies alike... just make sure your "inner circle" is aware of these deals.

Step 8: Quash all dissension and consolidate your power. Make an example of anyone who questions your authority... preferably in the most colorful way you can (who says using capitals to gank a lone industrial is overkill?).



I love you.
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2014-01-08 19:36:10 UTC
Only way would be to be a warlord IRL, get your IRL minions to open accounts and be your alts, Under threat of IRL death they follow you in EVE. Don't have to worry about corp theft or alliance theft shenanigans because you know who they are and where you left them chained to a computer desk.

Make them all run 10 accounts each and use isboxer and your empire can be that much more expansive.


Holgrak Blacksmith
Prophets of Motav
#38 - 2014-01-08 19:42:45 UTC
Wooly Akachi wrote:
You have failed the first step.

You do not ask!

You state you are a warlord those who do not bow down to you will die!

So you are a minion!


Didn't Alexander and Genghis ask on the forums first?
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#39 - 2014-01-08 19:46:09 UTC
Ah yes, a fellow megalomaniac. Having not yet built my own eternal empire of blood and steel, I can't offer any advice based on practical hands-on experience. Only some of my own broodings on the matter.

- Ponder on what Benny Ohu, ShahFluffers, and Nuela have already said here.

- Read The Technocrat: Leadership Algorhythms by Praxis Astra. This is your intro treatise on the greasy nuts and bolts of forming and managing an organization of EVE players. From there, you can go on to his Neurotechnicon, which is about spying and the meta-game.

- One standout maxim from the mighty Praxis Astra: Expert authority carries the day. Even though EVE groups are structured as dictatorships with the CEO/Executor being able to kick anyone out or end the club itself, expert authority will be the actual means of decision making and implementation 9 times in 10. A corollary: Knowledge of the tiny details of how a game mechanic works can make you or break you in EVE. Flub a detail and you can have a critical disaster. Taking advantage of one can provide huge benefits.

- That's enough hints to a potential rival for one day.


Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#40 - 2014-01-08 19:47:26 UTC
Zerg just do et mang

Concord eve you have dat spark

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard