Player Features and Ideas Discussion

An item rental contract would allow someone to safely lend something to an untrusted pilot for a period of time. The owner could charge ISK for the service and set collateral to protect his asset. Basically a courier contract but the reward paid upfront to the owner (and no shipping package).

The most obvious use for such a contract would be to rent out Freighters and Jump Freighters to those who only need them occasionally. Corps may choose to use them as a check-out system for caps, so their is a paper trail proving it is a corp asset. I am sure other uses could be found as well. Someone will try to make a scam out of it.

With some extra dev work, a rental contract could be used to rent online POS structures to another corp. This isn’t as simple, it would require a few tweaks. Renters granted access through the force field, owners no longer have access to storage or jobs. Owners need a way to terminate the contract early, but no reward would be paid. The contract automatically terminates if the structure is put offline or incapacitated. If the renter enters in a war against the owner, access through the force field is suspended, but the contract is not terminated automatically. If the owner enters in a war against the renter, the contract would be terminated with no reward paid.

Yes, I would expect people to require enough collateral to cover the entire ship, otherwise people would just fail the contract and sell the ship. The value of renting is that they get the collateral back when the contract is complete, simple and done. Buying and Reselling a JF wastes a lot of money in taxes and broker fees. A quick sell means they eat the price difference between buy and sell. A sell order means having to say near the station and play 1 ISK games against day traders. They are also at risk of losing ISK if the market moves against them.

Those are all reason someone might prefer to rent.

That was before my time. Why where they removed?

Almost no one used them and those that did used them for scamming.

This is a great idea for BPOs at any npc station.

After the rental period expires the BPO is returned to its rightful owner

A bpo is always ready to use with unlimited runs
A copy takes time to cook and has limited runs

Time = isk
that's why

and more: making copies demands a slot
if the slot is public.. forget it
if the slot belongs to the corp, the bpo has to be in a corp hangar, thats just how the game is built

I see your point.

It simply adds teamwork to industrial corps by sharing resources better.
Any industrial player will have multiple BPOs for sure but not always what the corp needs.

My concern is about the corp/alliance making use of the industrial potential as a team and not a bunch of solo indies worried about bpo theft all the time.. we are all tired of that

having a pos is a must, yes, but the simple fact that pos usage DEMANDS that bpos are in the corp hangar.. well, you see my point

Insufficient capitalisation is why you might need to rent out, say, a battleship BPO to a for-profit builder rather than building them yourself.

Running a 7 day production job on a battleship BPO ties up around six to eight billion ISK worth of minerals. If you don't have that amount of ISK liquid at the time (perhaps you have just tied up 25b in a character purchase), why not rent the BPO out? You can produce BPCs to 'sort of' get this effect, but at the cost of spending three times as long and tying up a science slot. (Most blueprints take 3 times as long to produce copies of as they do to build from).



On the freeform contracts - they predate my time in game, but a collateralized lease contract is just a small subset of what those could do.