EVE General Discussion

Like seriously I make a lot of transactions this month in EVE, I sell over 3 Billion worth of resources this month in EVE, and I log back into EVE a few days later to see that my account is Negative 600 Million ISK for some odd reason. I check my transaction logs and it says something about a GM RMT Reversal first time in over many months of doing active trades between players, many contracts, and many 0 ISK/Direct Wallet trades.

I trust the people I do business with which is why I generally just do a 0 ISK transaction and let them pay me with a discount on it.

When a Reversal on an account occurs, Does this mean that the player who did the transfer with a person is given the items, or ISK back?

I file a petition on this as this is the first time doing the exact same trades, Industry/Mining that I have done for months on my account, I understand that my accounts could have been flagged like in other games due to Large Transactions in ISK in a single month but when you have 5 accounts what do you expect to happen I also do all my transactions on a single character.

I Guess what I am asking is how long does it generally take for CCP to actually fix these type of problems if they are a mistake, or let me know what is up so I can get hold of the corp/alliance, or whomever I did the transaction with so they can send the items back if it was indeed a reversal.

Currently I have 4 other accounts waiting to come back and make another 3-5 billion isk this month, but can't actively renew any of them until this little issues is taken care of and I have read that it can take weeks for anyone to get back in response to a petition, I have had some very long waits on some in the past too.

HAH

Thanks, then I won't be renewing my other 4 accounts for awhile then their loss of money from a paying customer not that it matters. Yes I am sure there are dirty transactions in a number of places given the fact this is the first time in over a year of playing EVE I think I have done my best to stay clean from scammers and isk sellers well its never 100% possible to stay clean of illegally obtained goods given the fact that EVE offers so many ways to make transactions including a friend could just give someone 20 billion isk for some reason and there is no way to prove that that person bought ISK.

I really wouldn't spend my Real Life money on gold though I have enough EVE accounts to worry about, 2 DarkFall accounts, and a Server box which totals to around $400 a month in cash.

Usually when a person buys gold in a online game they get an email about it I am just curious because it took place yesterday, I got no email and I am confused about it all if they items/ISK was actually returned to the player or players.



Depends, What I usually do Is I mine a crap ton of money if I am feeling really crabby then I can easily make 500+ Million isk a day with my accounts considering 3 of them are not fully trained or maxed out yet.

Usually what I do is offer my resources at discounted price to players and Corps I know in EVE in a contract for 0 ISK, I let them pay me because I trust them I actually know the people I contract it to if not I wouldn't contract it for 0 ISK.

They pay me directly to wallet, or later in some way if I agree to it usually its directly to wallet most of the time though.

Larger Transactions when it turns out like no one wanted the stuff I was selling this month because they had a big enough supply I just take it down to Jita and do a quick sell of my items hitting an instant Billion ISK in one second sometimes 2 billion ISK or more instantly depending on what I am selling.

I am not one of those idiots that gets scammed by all the contract spam people put in the Jita market the things where you can sell a plex, but the buyer pays back the same plex they just purchased type of thing like seriously if only CCP would restrict this trickery.

After all EVE has lots of scammers I see it everyday but if you can't trust your own corp, alliance, or people you know of in Real Life and in Game especially when you are like me then where does it get you and what is the point of playing industry in EVE then.

Sounds like the voice of experience.

I am spaceship.

What do you mean by "0 isk transaction"?

A contract for 0 ISK?
A station trade?

Not going to lie I could give a class on exactly how to do this in online games, and even games which support Real Money Trading like Entropia, but believe me I wouldn't use my own account for such actions, I am just not a stupid person.





I have done a lot more transactions this month than in previous months because i started playing a lot more than I previously was and registered 2 more accounts.

Most of my transactions were done by contract to people I know of all of them were corporation related except for alternate accounts of others from the same corps I did contracts with which bought my items but I put the contracts to that specific person for 0 ISK and then they paid later directly to me.

There were also multiple station trades, although I rarely do station trades unless another player asks me but there were like at least 3-4 station trades this month that I Can think of which had 0 ISK transactions most of them I know were from newbie corps because the people I know had alts didn't want them to be in any corp wanted it to stay in a starter corp to avoid war-decks I guess you could call them care-bears?

I do Zero ISK trades all the time I have since the day I started going into industrial and never had any problem until recently perhaps I just run into a trade which was a dirty trade don't really have any full idea.

In general I know about 3 active corps in this game usually they buy raw materials for ship building so I supply them what they request unless I over mine which I sell to others or on the market, or sometimes I mine Ice, trade for other items and such. If it wasn't for these corps I know of I wouldn't be playing EVE today you see I started EVE originally back in like 2003, but I never like EVE at all it was my friends from Face OF Mankind that got me into EVE.

When I don't do zero ISK trades is if I do a public contract obviously, or when I sell items on the market or buy orders otherwise if I know the person or the corp I tend to trust the people and it works for me usually.

I also always use Jita, or Amarr to sell my items too because they are trade-hubs obviously not sure that has anything to do with it perhaps the Billion ISK transactions of items I sold raised red flags.

I just hope they figure it out soon and let me know without waiting too long don't want to loose my subscription time because I really can't play.

If you really want to clean up this game.

How about we get rid of all the contract scammers that sit in Jita scamming all day long if you want to do your job at cleaning anything up in fact most those illegal scammers are likely related to RMT activity anyways.

I find that hard to believe

Scamming isn't illegal but I see it as illegal, or well dumb.