Player Features and Ideas Discussion

true, however, the mechanic wouldnt be an issue if he wasn't -10.

it is entirely possible to run sites in low sec and then to complete the escalation in hi-sec without being shot at by the locals provided u dnt have low sec status.

the arguing point here is: piracy is a choice, and it has consequences just like this one.

im fully aware that high seccers aversion to low sec is their own volition, but its not an irrational one. they are often inexperienced in the game and, in low sec, stand out like a light house. Add to that the fact that few PvP viable fits will complete the escalation in a decent time, and bringing buddies makes the reward less worth while than just running more sites or missions. When a low sec escalation comes up, they are often skipped because the risks make the reward meaningless.


TL:DR
Just like a carebear can choose to not go into low sec to pursue the impossible and/or un profitable, a pirate can choose not to screw up his sec status.

+1 for treating them the same.
However, it could have just been an oversight by CCP. time will tell.

criminals do not have restricted access to the markets. criminals travel through hi sec very often. the criminal status simply prevents them from stayin on grid for about 1 minute.

so they cant rat in hi-sec, which they mostly arent interested in anyways. Criminal status' accomplish little more than giving u a red background on everyone elses overview to make u look scary.

So I can get in my Itty 4 and just go to Hek or Jita or Rens or Amarr no problems right?

Nope.


I'll revise my statement: Can't realistically access the major markets for anything more than would fit in an interceptor and even then still having a high probability of getting caught on the undock.


This doesn't bother us ^ We accept that.


A tengu will run a low sec site with ease, and can warp cloaked, and sneaky with extreme ease. And A tengu capable of this is only about 550m, if that. Pretty easy.


A tengu won't run a high sec escalation with low sec status because concord will still blow you up.


As I said to the other guy, this isn't about pirates wanting a break or to not be 'punished for our lives of crime.'

Just asking for the escalations to flow how they should : High -> Low -> Null.

Us older pirates aren't bothered too much either way. Between our alts, friends, and other sources of income, the occasional escalation going to high sec is an acceptable loss. Where the problem comes in is where younger players trying to get by in low sec get these. They don't have as many resources, don't have as many(or any) alts(And standing by the get an alt to do it argument is just, for lack of a better term, stupid), and these low sec sites are one of their few, viable, consistent isk making options. We're not asking for fewer penalties, we're not asking to have our hands held, we're not asking to be treated special, we're not asking to be given privilege, we're not asking for CCP to give us a break. We're only asking for sites to escalate in the fashion they are supposed to, which is in a high -> low -> null pattern.


If this concept escapes you, then please move along.

it definitely sounds like an oversight. CCP forgets the pirates sometimes I think. What is made available for people with low sec status is pretty pathetic in comparison to what is available to people with a high sec status.

This needs CCP's attention


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