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L3 security missions ships advice
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Blitz Haegen
Agartha Technologies
#1 - 2014-01-04 22:08:19 UTC
With the right skills, is there possibly any frigate on the market that could do L3s solo?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2014-01-04 22:18:23 UTC
Honestly, any assault frigate should be able to swing L3s with good skills. Any kiting ship should be able to swing them (albeit slowly). What did you have in mind?
Ryder 'ook
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-01-04 22:43:10 UTC
For a new player, the standard recommendation for L3 security missions would be a meta-fitted Battlecruiser.

Just saying...

Every atom in our bodies was forged in the furnace of ancient stars - it's time we return home.
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#4 - 2014-01-04 23:17:06 UTC
T2 Assault, navy, pirate. I fly a hookbill on them sometimes. Need SP and at least T2 modules.

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Blitz Haegen
Agartha Technologies
#5 - 2014-01-05 00:29:47 UTC
I have a Worm but low SP. When I can get T2 everything in it including the fitting skills to cram it all in, I was hoping that could hang with L3s. Thoughts on that? Hookbills are great, but I got tired of kiting.

Otherwise I'll train into a Drake with Rapid Heavy Launchers or something.
Blitz Haegen
Agartha Technologies
#6 - 2014-01-05 00:30:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Blitz Haegen
Ryder 'ook wrote:
For a new player, the standard recommendation for L3 security missions would be a meta-fitted Battlecruiser.

Just saying...



If you knew me you would know that I do anything "standard." But I am able to plex soon so I guess that doesn't matter. On the other hand, a Drake looks pretty sweet...
Bouh Revetoile
In Wreck we thrust
#7 - 2014-01-05 00:52:11 UTC
An Ishkur does lvl3 fine. I guess any AF will do the same.

I wasn't sure about navy and pirate frigs, but if Zhilia Mann says it's possible, it probably is.

I tried my Ishkur on lvl4, but got killed by a cloud in recon... I think an AF can go through some of them but would take too many time because of low dps to clear battleships.
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#8 - 2014-01-05 02:18:35 UTC
Blitz Haegen wrote:
I have a Worm but low SP. When I can get T2 everything in it including the fitting skills to cram it all in, I was hoping that could hang with L3s. Thoughts on that? Hookbills are great, but I got tired of kiting.

Otherwise I'll train into a Drake with Rapid Heavy Launchers or something.

Not just great but cheap. CPU is a pain, but otherwise two can be built compared to one worm or assault frig. Of course if you are going to go over the top on a build, assault would/could be the safer hull.

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Dato Koppla
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#9 - 2014-01-05 02:21:49 UTC
Just go for a Drake or Cerb, sure you can do L3s in an AF and maybe even some faction frigs but it will take far too long.
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#10 - 2014-01-05 03:01:55 UTC
Dato Koppla wrote:
Just go for a Drake or Cerb, sure you can do L3s in an AF and maybe even some faction frigs but it will take far too long.

Yeah it's more about if you like and train frigs. If you are planning to max frigs and their weaps, then it's worth it. If more about running missions than cruisers, BC's and BS's for training. Many train on BC for lvl3, then the BC is also good on lvl4 with skills.

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dilly nay
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-01-05 04:38:08 UTC
there is no L3 mission a 3mil~ sp player cant do inside a brutix when flying amarr space. caldari space you may need help for one or two but the rest are cake. idk about gall/min space
Roseline Penshar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-01-05 06:13:31 UTC
i use cyclone to do L3 and it's doing fine, or use T3 or command ship will do it more easy lol

as for AF yes it can but for fun only not for income
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#13 - 2014-01-05 06:40:31 UTC
Personally I wouldn't take a Worm out for the job, but I'm quite sure it can be done. This looks solid enough to tank at close range while dealing adequate (in a relative sense) damage:

[Worm, L3 stuff]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Power Diagnostic System II

1MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Extender II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II

[empty high slot]
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Core Defense Field Purger I
Small Core Defense Field Purger I

Hornet II x5
Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-01-06 07:46:43 UTC
Assault frigs can do them, but it will take awhile.

For a newer player I would recommend a Myrmidon or Prophecy if you have drone skills (with the current meta drone boats are amazing so you should be training up drone skills). Drake has a good tank but crap dps. Ferox is decent if you have the hybrid gun skills. Brutix has crazy good dps but for the love of god why are you flying gallente without drone skills. Harbinger is good if you prefer lazors to drones (though the drone route is good for amarr now too).
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#15 - 2014-01-06 09:29:29 UTC
Theodoric Darkwind wrote:
Assault frigs can do them, but it will take awhile.

You mean for low SP? Never takes me a while in a hookbill. I blow through most of the missions while taking little damage. I just run afterburner, flip light missiles and then spin a hardner if they even manage to hit me. I can do it faster with a drake, but a well built frig with some skill is nothing short of quite capable.

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Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#16 - 2014-01-06 12:44:41 UTC
All t2 combat hulls (including inties) can do L3s fine. Here is what I personally use, it really finishes the missions faster than my Drake (but slower than my Cerb).

[Hawk, The Shawkhank Redemption]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Cap Recharger II
Gistii A-Type 1MN Afterburner
Pithi C-Type Small Shield Booster
Gistum C-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Gistum C-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier

Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Rocket Launcher II
Empty

Small Bay Loading Accelerator II
Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I

Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/68101-The-Shawkhank-Redemption.html#ixzz2pccHvrR2
Precurseur
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-01-06 15:23:11 UTC
Whatever line you're intending to fly, you can always skip forward a bit and train into a BC (just for the L3's). Don't cross train so early in your character - keep with the same line and just move further along. The reasoning behind that is you'll need (needed?) those at L5 for HACs/HICs/CS/etc later.

I don't think that made much sense, but meh.

Whatever you decide, stick with the same race/weapons and specialise into them early on. Any BC can do any L3 and any BS can do any L4 and you'll be a lot more pokey with specialised skills and T2 mods as opposed to having everything everywhere and being mediocre.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2014-01-06 22:38:47 UTC
+1 on the assault frigates they can even do level 4s, though they tend to be a little bit mission specific, you kind of need to match the boat to the pirates.

You could always try an Asteros though the same ISK buys a basic T1 battleship of course.

Is their a specific reason to use frigates instead of cruisers or battlecruisers ?
Blitz Haegen
Agartha Technologies
#19 - 2014-01-07 01:15:28 UTC
I haven't checked this thread in a bit, but this is a lot of good feedback.

I have decent drone skils ( though not awesome) for my Worm. I like frigs because they are fast and hard to hit as a result. But after reading these replies I have decided that training into a BC would be best for when I get to L3s. I could go either Gallente or Caldari at this point, but I like a good shield tank so Caldari it is. Spending time in training frigs could be used for training a BC which it seems is more appropriate.

Over a decade of experiences with this game being so old, it is hard to discount tried and true practices.
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#20 - 2014-01-07 02:46:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Sunset
[Caldari Navy Hookbill - CNH Oblivion]
(one of my actives - balanced)
-low slot-
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II

-med slot-
Small Shield Booster II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II (or other)
Shield Boost Amplifier II
F-a10 Buffer Capacitor Regenerator (low CPU choice)
1MN Afterburner II

-high slot-
Light Missile Launcher II / Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II / Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II / Scourge Fury Light Missile

-rig slot-
Small Capacitor Control Circuit I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

Pretty cheap too, one good lvl4 will cover it. Skill intensive but some stuff can be swapped for named, T2 modules are usually cheaper though. I've never taken it into a solo lvl4 yet, but something I might get around to doing with a Hawk.
But yeah, BC the way to go if just getting into lvl3's. imo drake /w heavy missiles etc. You can always look back later towards frigs as you build your SP up. Good fun.

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