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Paper-cut: Environmental effects in wormhole space should replace the sun
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Covert Kitty
SRS Industries
#1 - 2011-11-23 18:59:37 UTC
In wormhole space as most know there are a variety of environmental effects, all of which are special star types.

Black Hole
Cataclysmic Variable (binary system with one star being consumed by another)
Magnetar
Pulsar
Red Giant
Wolf-Rayet

The problem is that these special stars to not replace the existing sun and only exist as a background, not a 3d object like the sun is. In addition this means that every single such system is a binary or trinary system, which is kinda silly. I've lived in wh space for over 2 years now and this has always nagged at me a bit.

I think it would be pretty cool to redo these effects and replace the sun with them. They look really nice, it would be great to fly around the effects.

Lastly, though separately, I personally think that taking this mechanic into k-space would be a great addition. Add some variety to k-space systems.
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#2 - 2011-11-23 19:17:55 UTC
Not every wormhole has one of these effects... therefore the planets need something to orbit!

No.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
Covert Kitty
SRS Industries
#3 - 2011-11-23 19:22:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Covert Kitty
Come on, seriously?....... obviously the sun would remain for systems with no special effect.

You do understand that all of those effects are types of stars right?
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#4 - 2011-11-23 19:38:39 UTC
Covert Kitty wrote:
Come on, seriously?....... obviously the sun would remain for systems with no special effect.

You do understand that all of those effects are types of stars right?


Yes, from systems which have a star adequate to provide for potentially life-bearing planets.

Take the black hole for example... do you think the planets should be orbiting the black hole, or comfortably orbiting a star orbiting the black hole at a great distance, yet close enough for some effects to be had?

And believe me... you don't want to set up shop on a planet orbiting a pulsar at close range.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-11-23 19:41:13 UTC
Covert Kitty wrote:
The problem is that these special stars to not replace the existing sun and only exist as a background, not a 3d object like the sun is. In addition this means that every single such system is a binary or trinary system, which is kinda silly. I've lived in wh space for over 2 years now and this has always nagged at me a bit.


Canonically, every starsystem in Eve that has a stargate in it is a binary system, because stargates can only be built in binary systems. I don't know why the second star in these systems isn't a warpable celestial object, unless it's explained in this article which I don't really want to read properly:

http://www.eveonline.com/background/jump/jump_03.asp

Secondly binary and trinary starsystems are pretty common in the universe. In fact the closest Starsystem to Earth is the Centauri system which comprises of three stars, Alpha, Beta and Proxima.

Black holes and pulsars are the remnants of stars that have gone supernova, so they really shouldn't have any intact starsystems anywhere near them anyway. Shocking news: EVE isn't realistic Shocked

Bottom line: This is all fluff and doesn't matter for the purposes of gameplay, so I don't really care.
Covert Kitty
SRS Industries
#6 - 2011-11-23 19:51:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Covert Kitty
Many black holes do actually have other stars that they have captured. As you say binary or more systems aren't uncommon. Though I'm not really making this post advocating for realism, it's just about artistic diversity. Having the same sun everywhere is just artistically a poor way of doing it. I have no problem at all with having binary, trinary, or even more style systems, but lets see it, lets see that diversity in the system, and be able to move around those objects of interest.

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Take the black hole for example... do you think the planets should be orbiting the black hole, or comfortably orbiting a star orbiting the black hole at a great distance, yet close enough for some effects to be had?

Well this comment isn't really on topic to be honest because that's the way things are currently. Visually you can see in wormholes that we are damn close to most of these objects. So your advocating for a change to be made based on realism. It's a scifi universe, and while I don't mind realism, it's not really what i'm focused on with this post. Rather I'm focused on changing what already exists, to add some better visual diversity.