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Intaki Liberated

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Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#61 - 2014-01-03 17:54:03 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
Desiderya wrote:



What the frack are you even talking about.


You've never noticed Caldari Military Outposts, Installations, and Facilities protected by Caldari Navy forces in the Intaki System? I'm rather sure PYRE scouts aren't so incompetent.


No, I've never noticed them. What I have noticed, however, are very small concentrations of lightly armed patrol vessels protecting these installations whose IFF transponders are not displaying them as Caldari Navy units. Additionally I've never considered these deployed units taking part in any offensive operation at all. But if you are collectively scared of their unspoken capabilities to wage war upon the federation I'm finding myself at a loss of words.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#62 - 2014-01-03 17:59:30 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Constantin Baracca wrote:

Are you suggesting, Miss Oniseki, that instead of legislating warfare that CONCORD should be acting to secure space from random acts of violence?

And I suppose the empires should provide them with the best of their technology to pursue this goal?

And I'll just bet you think they should try to broker real peace between our peoples so that we can advance as a society rather than spending our resources fighting endless skirmishes in what would otherwise be productive space?

Honestly, where do you get these silly ideas...


I know, I know. Insane notions, aren't they?


It's a good thing you're not in charge of CONCORD, or there'd be peace throughout the cluster and then where would those CONCORD employees work? Think of the unemployment!

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Iwan Terpalen
Doomheim
#63 - 2014-01-03 18:19:16 UTC
My sympathies go out to the Mordu forces, who've gotten themselves a bum deal with this particular job -- I can just imagine it. One day you get contracted to provide in-system and on-station security, the next the system flips, some militia jerk flips, and you end up being summarily executed for "being in bed with the Caldari," presumably while not even having had the sort of proper lay that phrase implies since you've been posted there.

I hope JUSTK will take up the anti-pirate and security picket duties now left vacant? It seems to be about their level, ayway.

Constantin Baracca wrote:
It's a good thing you're not in charge of CONCORD, or there'd be peace throughout the cluster and then where would those CONCORD employees work? Think of the unemployment!

A level head such as Oniseki's might just have a chance to be able to solve the problem of man's inhumanity to man, hm?
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#64 - 2014-01-03 18:44:36 UTC
Iwan Terpalen wrote:
I hope JUSTK will take up the anti-pirate and security picket duties now left vacant? It seems to be about their level, ayway.


Easy there, kirjuun! That sounds kind of dangerous!

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#65 - 2014-01-03 19:12:44 UTC
Iwan Terpalen wrote:
My sympathies go out to the Mordu forces, who've gotten themselves a bum deal with this particular job -- I can just imagine it. One day you get contracted to provide in-system and on-station security, the next the system flips, some militia jerk flips, and you end up being summarily executed for "being in bed with the Caldari," presumably while not even having had the sort of proper lay that phrase implies since you've been posted there.

I hope JUSTK will take up the anti-pirate and security picket duties now left vacant? It seems to be about their level, ayway.

Constantin Baracca wrote:
It's a good thing you're not in charge of CONCORD, or there'd be peace throughout the cluster and then where would those CONCORD employees work? Think of the unemployment!

A level head such as Oniseki's might just have a chance to be able to solve the problem of man's inhumanity to man, hm?


It might be better than the rather inconsistent, self-serving people at the head of CONCORD at the moment. They're not really an organization that bothers with solutions as much as they focus on damage control. If CONCORD could level the full might of their potential, Intaki might have been able to choose its own destiny years ago rather than being consigned to being torn to shreds by the two empires that might help it.

All that potential, and their most recent endeavor was the most blisteringly foolish foray into nullsec I've ever heard of. Forget Katrina, I'm fairly sure there are hounds in my family home that would be able to better utilize the resources of CONCORD.

CONCORD itself is far too concerned with its own paychecks and less with its mandate to try and improve the universe for all of us at the present.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Iwan Terpalen
Doomheim
#66 - 2014-01-03 19:45:30 UTC
Just out of curiosity, when's your license renewal coming up?
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#67 - 2014-01-05 04:28:18 UTC
Iwan Terpalen wrote:
Just out of curiosity, when's your license renewal coming up?


I'm paid forward for months, though I'm not terribly afraid of CONCORD revoking my license based on my disdain for their organization and practices. If that were a grounding offense, there would be no capsuleers.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#68 - 2014-01-05 05:30:58 UTC
Constantin Baracca wrote:
Iwan Terpalen wrote:
Just out of curiosity, when's your license renewal coming up?


I'm paid forward for months, though I'm not terribly afraid of CONCORD revoking my license based on my disdain for their organization and practices. If that were a grounding offense, there would be no capsuleers.

CONCORD wants ISK, not approval.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#69 - 2014-01-05 05:58:46 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
CONCORD wants ISK, not approval.


Y'know... considering that CONCORD is supposed to be the "universal protector" and fly ships that can obliterate a fleet of fifty capsuleer battleships in under sixty seconds in a 0.5 system - yet can't seem to stop pirate frigates from showing up every five minutes in a 0.8 system

... And they're supposed to prevent war between the four great nations - yet can be bribed to allow full scale war between small corporations for just a few million ISK

... And how they always manage to go completely missing whenever a Sansha's Incursion begins in an area - unless it's to vaporize offending capsuleers ...

... And who owns the security exchange commission that taxes you for everything you do in life?

Given the evidence, I'd say CONCORD isn't concerned with public safety at all. They're really just a 100% dedicated universal anti-capsuleer force hired by our own governments to keep all of us from getting too powerful ... and nothing else.

Your tax ISK at work, folks!

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#70 - 2014-01-05 06:32:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Katran Luftschreck wrote:

Y'know... considering that CONCORD is supposed to be the "universal protector" and fly ships that can obliterate a fleet of fifty capsuleer battleships in under sixty seconds in a 0.5 system - yet can't seem to stop pirate frigates from showing up every five minutes in a 0.8 system

... And they're supposed to prevent war between the four great nations - yet can be bribed to allow full scale war between small corporations for just a few million ISK


Defending the sovereignty of a signatory nation is not part of their mandate. You may look to the various Navies of the respective nations for that.

As for the declaration of war fees, you may call it a bribe if you want. I prefer the term "fee".

You may be unaccustomed to the concept of it, or even look down your nose at it... but paying an authority for the trouble of looking the other way while you handle some 'aggressive business rivalries' is a common enough occurrence in the State. Granted, it doesn't usually include bloodshed.

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... And how they always manage to go completely missing whenever a Sansha's Incursion begins in an area - unless it's to vaporize offending capsuleers ...


They are busy protecting the planetary bodies, gates, and stations of said systems - which is why you don't see Sansha vessels camping those areas. They have already arranged for capsuleers to handle the deadspace locations. Perhaps you didn't know we were being paid to do so? I invite you to look up something called an "incursion fleet".

You might also be surprised to learn that supervisors don't do the menial labor they are capable of doing, because they pay workers to do it for them.

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... And who owns the security exchange commission that taxes you for everything you do in life?


Oh my! You have to pay taxes! Oh no! What a travesty!

For a moment there, I almost thought you were accustomed to a civilized society that operates at a cost.

EDIT: Did you know Stillwater charges you a 5% tax?! You might want to raise some concerns with Mr. Caine about that... surely that is a mistake, and a grievous insult!

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Given the evidence, I'd say CONCORD isn't concerned with public safety at all. They're really just a 100% dedicated universal anti-capsuleer force hired by our own governments to keep all of us from getting too powerful ... and nothing else.


Yes, precisely. Did it take both of your two neurons rubbing together to figure that out? That one of CONCORD's primary mandates is to protect the rest of the cluster from us? They've said so on enough occasions, haven't they?

I'll not grant you the satisfaction of a proper comments regarding the "public safety" and "nothing else".

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Your tax ISK at work, folks!


Is this where you say "fight the power" and shave some of your hair off in a rebellious display of independence?

I'm proud of where my ISK goes. If I want it back, I'll go assist in aforementioned incursion fleets or hunt pirates. I guarantee I've been paid far more than I've paid out. Perhaps you should do something useful like that rather than dribbling inane criticisms of CONCORD while sitting safely under their protection.

No, I don't mean high-sec. I mean the laws mandating you always get a new clone. Our tax ISK hard at work, don't you know.

Keep 'playing pirate', Luftschreck. I'm sure CONCORD is most amused, as a parent is when their child waves a wooden sword at them with an eye patch. Don't worry. I'm sure as long as you remember not to stick your tongue out at them, they won't take away your sweeties.

Katrina Oniseki

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#71 - 2014-01-10 00:21:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Katran Luftschreck
Pirate? I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a miner, an industrialist, and sometimes a businesswoman, always have been. If I happen to be expanding my market to include a few lo-sec systems does that automatically make me a pirate?

Really, between the empty pretension and the false assumptions, I don't know why I'm even answering. People like you are an ISK a dozen - "I know everything and my ego has 100% resistance to truth." Sansha himself could take cloning lessons.

Roll

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#72 - 2014-01-10 07:32:43 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Pirate? I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a miner, an industrialist, and sometimes a businesswoman, always have been. If I happen to be expanding my market to include a few lo-sec systems does that automatically make me a pirate?

Really, between the empty pretension and the false assumptions, I don't know why I'm even answering. People like you are an ISK a dozen - "I know everything and my ego has 100% resistance to truth." Sansha himself could take cloning lessons.

Roll


No, but the outfit you have associated yourself with has had very strong connections with one of the few factions that CONCORD has classified as pirate. Your business practices may be on the level and legit, but regardless of what you do, many will see your corporation and they may be a little more...cautious or may be even more open to doing business with you.

Your soap-box rant on the other hand about CONCORD and their responsibilities to us was a little misguided. Madam Oniseki pointed out the shortcomings of your points and rather eloquently at that.

Now, your rebuttal on the other hand shows even more strongly that you really don't know what you're talking about and are too prideful to accept the consequences of your made statements or you really do not have any passion to hold onto your beliefs and make a stand for yourself.

We travel in the dark of the new moon,

A starry highway traced on the map of the sky

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#73 - 2014-01-10 08:22:38 UTC
CONCORD has classified me as an outlaw, at present, due to my negative security status. Am I pirate now, but not a pirate once I donate a few tags and a "processing fee" to no longer be listed below -5.0 security status?

Ah, the paradoxes of the Assembly.

People might as well just say, "I'm a pirate; you're a pirate; everyone's a pirate!" the degree to which it's lost all worth or meaning the amount of times it's bandied about. Might become the lyrics to: Capsuleer, The Musical.

It can be part of Act I -- attempting to gain the moral high ground through delusional moral affectations.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#74 - 2014-01-10 13:29:37 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
CONCORD has classified me as an outlaw, at present, due to my negative security status. Am I pirate now, but not a pirate once I donate a few tags and a "processing fee" to no longer be listed below -5.0 security status?

Ah, the paradoxes of the Assembly.

People might as well just say, "I'm a pirate; you're a pirate; everyone's a pirate!" the degree to which it's lost all worth or meaning the amount of times it's bandied about. Might become the lyrics to: Capsuleer, The Musical.

It can be part of Act I -- attempting to gain the moral high ground through delusional moral affectations.


To be fair, though, I wouldn't call Pyre Falcon a pirate organization. Luftschreck is clearly marked there as employed by Stillwater, which just as certainly is. Even if she isn't a pirate, I wouldn't chastise someone for thinking so, or for at least assuming she enables that behavior by running a legitimate front for an illegitimate cartel.

Lots of people call me a slaver. Whether I am or not, I sort of have to absorb the blow. It would be a bit disingenuous of me to rebuke that I'm a slaver when I ostensibly work for an Empire that still employs them and have taken part previously in the care and management of slaves. Especially if I do it just because it's a dirty word around the other empires.

It might be true to become indignant about it, but only in a most technical sense. I don't think it would be very honest to make that the center point of an argument. Likewise, I don't think, even if Katran's dealings are completely above board, that she can become indignant about being called a pirate when her employers are so clearly associated with them.

And that's assuming she actually has never been involved in actual piracy. Plenty of the less savory characters I've met in backalley bars called themselves "businessmen". They made clear what business they were involved in.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#75 - 2014-01-10 13:46:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Constantin Baracca wrote:


To be fair, though, I wouldn't call Pyre Falcon a pirate organization. Luftschreck is clearly marked there as employed by Stillwater, which just as certainly is. Even if she isn't a pirate, I wouldn't chastise someone for thinking so, or for at least assuming she enables that behavior by running a legitimate front for an illegitimate cartel.


People can call the PFDC whatever they may wish, it's no concern of mine. It will not change my amusement at those people who throw around the word, "Pirate" like it means a damn when to one degree or another the majority of capsuleer freelancers partake in violence for profit. It doesn't matter to me what altar people decide to consecrate their votive offerings to, the blood of their fellow man will still be shed upon it regardless, even if they deny that it is so.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#76 - 2014-01-10 14:41:06 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Constantin Baracca wrote:


To be fair, though, I wouldn't call Pyre Falcon a pirate organization. Luftschreck is clearly marked there as employed by Stillwater, which just as certainly is. Even if she isn't a pirate, I wouldn't chastise someone for thinking so, or for at least assuming she enables that behavior by running a legitimate front for an illegitimate cartel.


People can call the PFDC whatever they may wish, it's no concern of mine. It will not change my amusement at those people who throw around the word, "Pirate" like it means a damn when to one degree or another the majority of capsuleer freelancers partake in violence for profit. It doesn't matter to me what altar people decide to consecrate their votive offerings to, the blood of their fellow man will still be shed upon it regardless, even if they deny that it is so.


I think that's a rather dismissive view of the situation. Not all of us who partake in violence intend to profit off of it. I know I pump any rewards I get for anti-pirate actions into the communities I try to service. People who need the ISK to buy things like water condensers or oxidizers for their settlements.

Pirates have a tendency to raid legitimate non-combatants and then use their goods to fund themselves. Violence may be the great universal constant, but how comfortable you are with that violence compared to how you use the fabulous wealth we capsuleers accrue says more about you.

I think you can be just as much a pirate if you're an otherwise legitimate accountant handling blood money, and that even those wading knee-deep in battle can still be noble warriors for a truly righteous cause. Unfortunately, many capsuleers become inured to their own moral codes and simply succumb to the temptation to nihilism. We shouldn't be without a guiding light in the darkness, otherwise we simply wander in circles, repeating the same actions that didn't solve our problems in the first place.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Jace Sarice
#77 - 2014-01-10 15:13:27 UTC
Constantin Baracca wrote:


I think that's a rather dismissive view of the situation. Not all of us who partake in violence intend to profit off of it. I know I pump any rewards I get for anti-pirate actions into the communities I try to service. People who need the ISK to buy things like water condensers or oxidizers for their settlements.

Pirates have a tendency to raid legitimate non-combatants and then use their goods to fund themselves. Violence may be the great universal constant, but how comfortable you are with that violence compared to how you use the fabulous wealth we capsuleers accrue says more about you.

I think you can be just as much a pirate if you're an otherwise legitimate accountant handling blood money, and that even those wading knee-deep in battle can still be noble warriors for a truly righteous cause. Unfortunately, many capsuleers become inured to their own moral codes and simply succumb to the temptation to nihilism. We shouldn't be without a guiding light in the darkness, otherwise we simply wander in circles, repeating the same actions that didn't solve our problems in the first place.


One's supposed "comfort" with violence is hardly a viable measure of anything, moral or otherwise. The grey area in this topic is insurmountably expansive. From one's definition of "legitimate non-combatants" to viable uses of assets acquired through violence, the middle-ground is always situated at the morals and principles of the individual capsuleer. Whether they utilize their own version of a "guiding light" that is outside of themselves is largely unaccountable in a public setting such as this due to the fact that the audience to their actions does not share their principles.

Someone referred to as a "pirate" by others may very well serve a purpose they deem larger than themselves and larger than any criticism they may receive from those who do not share their principles. To attempt to universalize terms such as "pirate" is fruitless and is typically done for no other reason than to provide the speaker with an artificially constructed moral high-ground. Does this mean that the morally bankrupt do not exist? Obviously not. But to admit the haziness of moral posturing in public settings is not to approach "nihilism" as you seem to be suggesting.

It is entirely reasonable to dismiss the moral criticism and labeling by those who do not share your values, beliefs, or customs. As an Amarr, this notion can hardly be new to you.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#78 - 2014-01-10 15:30:49 UTC
Jace Sarice wrote:
Constantin Baracca wrote:


I think that's a rather dismissive view of the situation. Not all of us who partake in violence intend to profit off of it. I know I pump any rewards I get for anti-pirate actions into the communities I try to service. People who need the ISK to buy things like water condensers or oxidizers for their settlements.

Pirates have a tendency to raid legitimate non-combatants and then use their goods to fund themselves. Violence may be the great universal constant, but how comfortable you are with that violence compared to how you use the fabulous wealth we capsuleers accrue says more about you.

I think you can be just as much a pirate if you're an otherwise legitimate accountant handling blood money, and that even those wading knee-deep in battle can still be noble warriors for a truly righteous cause. Unfortunately, many capsuleers become inured to their own moral codes and simply succumb to the temptation to nihilism. We shouldn't be without a guiding light in the darkness, otherwise we simply wander in circles, repeating the same actions that didn't solve our problems in the first place.


One's supposed "comfort" with violence is hardly a viable measure of anything, moral or otherwise. The grey area in this topic is insurmountably expansive. From one's definition of "legitimate non-combatants" to viable uses of assets acquired through violence, the middle-ground is always situated at the morals and principles of the individual capsuleer. Whether they utilize their own version of a "guiding light" that is outside of themselves is largely unaccountable in a public setting such as this due to the fact that the audience to their actions does not share their principles.

Someone referred to as a "pirate" by others may very well serve a purpose they deem larger than themselves and larger than any criticism they may receive from those who do not share their principles. To attempt to universalize terms such as "pirate" is fruitless and is typically done for no other reason than to provide the speaker with an artificially constructed moral high-ground. Does this mean that the morally bankrupt do not exist? Obviously not. But to admit the haziness of moral posturing in public settings is not to approach "nihilism" as you seem to be suggesting.

It is entirely reasonable to dismiss the moral criticism and labeling by those who do not share your values, beliefs, or customs. As an Amarr, this notion can hardly be new to you.


Perhaps not, but to say that there are no pirates, that it's simply a political term, doesn't say as much about moral relativism than how you see your own actions and that of your government and benefactors. Consider, if you've no moral ground of your own to stand on, if there are no pirates in your perception, then there is no point in fighting anyone. There would be no difference if you gave up and rejoined the Federation, because the only active decision you are making would be totally relative. In essence, you can't fight the Federation in good conscience if you literally believe that there is no difference on a moral ground between you.

Even as an Amarrian, I know the difference between Pyre Falcon and the Guristas. Whereas you may no longer see the difference, I don't know that necessarily means there is none. It just means that the gauge you use to judge your own moral situation might be damaged. Hence the inherent nihilism in capsuleers, I suppose. Capsuleers tend to leech good intentions like cold air around firelight, trying to deal with the emptiness of the soul in an external way. It's come to be a sad commentary that I rather enjoy my time with my parish simply because it's so hard to find capsuleers that don't derive the bulk of their amusement solely from schadenfreude.

On the other hand, once you've said there isn't a difference between yourself and the Guristas, you might very well be right. If I were you, I would be extremely uncomfortable with that assertion.

Perhaps it's simply an insurmountable difference of opinion, but I think that when you cede the idea of the universal good, you've already failed in whatever you are trying to accomplish. Nothing of merit has ever been accomplished by the walking dead.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Jace Sarice
#79 - 2014-01-10 15:47:51 UTC
Constantin Baracca wrote:


Perhaps not, but to say that there are no pirates, that it's simply a political term, doesn't say as much about moral relativism than how you see your own actions and that of your government and benefactors. Consider, if you've no moral ground of your own to stand on, if there are no pirates in your perception, then there is no point in fighting anyone. There would be no difference if you gave up and rejoined the Federation, because the only active decision you are making would be totally relative. In essence, you can't fight the Federation in good conscience if you literally believe that there is no difference on a moral ground between you.

Even as an Amarrian, I know the difference between Pyre Falcon and the Guristas. Whereas you may no longer see the difference, I don't know that necessarily means there is none. It just means that the gauge you use to judge your own moral situation might be damaged. Hence the inherent nihilism in capsuleers, I suppose. Capsuleers tend to leech good intentions like cold air around firelight, trying to deal with the emptiness of the soul in an external way. It's come to be a sad commentary that I rather enjoy my time with my parish simply because it's so hard to find capsuleers that don't derive the bulk of their amusement solely from schadenfreude.

On the other hand, once you've said there isn't a difference between yourself and the Guristas, you might very well be right. If I were you, I would be extremely uncomfortable with that assertion.

Perhaps it's simply an insurmountable difference of opinion, but I think that when you cede the idea of the universal good, you've already failed in whatever you are trying to accomplish. Nothing of merit has ever been accomplished by the walking dead.


You have misinterpreted by point, possibly by missing my references to "public setting". I am by no means saying that pirates do not exist or that morality does not exist. I am criticizing the use of terms like "pirate" in relation to moral judgement in a public setting. Since the morality involved with such terms are entirely dependent upon one's own set of values and beliefs, it is typically pointless to attempt to use them in a public setting with any moral force. Your audience does not share your definition.

With any moral discussion, those involved must have agreed upon definitions for terms in order for productive discussion to occur. WIth terms such as "pirate", it no longer has any significant moral definition in a public setting. Too many have used it haphazardly for it to have any continued utility.

As for some notion of the "universal good," I believe any argument regarding slavery has shown the futility of that attempt. One must be able to approach another in some form of commonality in order for productivity of discussion to occur, and that is frequently not possible with topics of morality and ethics.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#80 - 2014-01-10 15:59:03 UTC
Constantin Baracca wrote:

I think that's a rather dismissive view of the situation. Not all of us who partake in violence intend to profit off of it. I know I pump any rewards I get for anti-pirate actions into the communities I try to service. People who need the ISK to buy things like water condensers or oxidizers for their settlements.

Pirates have a tendency to raid legitimate non-combatants and then use their goods to fund themselves. Violence may be the great universal constant, but how comfortable you are with that violence compared to how you use the fabulous wealth we capsuleers accrue says more about you.

I think you can be just as much a pirate if you're an otherwise legitimate accountant handling blood money, and that even those wading knee-deep in battle can still be noble warriors for a truly righteous cause. Unfortunately, many capsuleers become inured to their own moral codes and simply succumb to the temptation to nihilism. We shouldn't be without a guiding light in the darkness, otherwise we simply wander in circles, repeating the same actions that didn't solve our problems in the first place.


The best soldiers are perfected in perpetual conflict, Mr. Baracca. You may believe in such things as a righteous cause, fought by noble warriors guided by moral codes and I might say that is an understandable perspective for one who believes in the religious doctrines of the Amarr faith - but your perspective is not my own. I will simply say that for myself there exists no glory, no honour, no justice, no morality and no ethics out here among the stars where I seek to perfect my craft and ply my trade as just another merchant of death. There is no law except that might makes right, and the purpose of violence, conflict, and war is nothing more than violence, conflict, and war itself.

Whereas you may need the guiding light of moral justification for violence - just like so many who embrace saccharine delusions - I turned from it towards my own inner penumbra to come to a simple realization:

I require no justifications.

This is just who I am now, and I being myself, can but only smile at it all now I live an honest life without hypocrisy.

Kurilaivonen|Concern