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Running level 4s in the latest expansion

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Captain Han Nerrus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-01-02 17:56:41 UTC
So I used to play last year but took a break (since Test sorta lost :( ).

Anyway decided to care bear a bit to get some cash before getting back into Null sec plus I want something a little more relaxing for a while.

So i used to fly doms in lvl 4 missions but they seem to have doubled in price in the past year, so is the dom still decent for lvl 4s or is there other ships that people now fly in them? (i have pretty decent drone and armour tank skills).

I was thinking of working towards the ishtar, is that still a good option?


Batelle
Filthy Peasants
#2 - 2014-01-02 18:01:53 UTC
domi has doubled in price because its about 3x better at missions than it used to be, and yes, it was very good beforehand.

Ishtar is also much stronger than it used to be.

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Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-01-02 20:38:37 UTC
The sentry Domi is now made of win. So it costs a bit more.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#4 - 2014-01-02 22:38:32 UTC
Also the domi costs more to make now than it used to, a bit more than double the cost. . they added a whole bunch of extra materials with the battleship rebalance.

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Captain Han Nerrus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-01-02 22:47:05 UTC
I don't mind paying it I just wanted to make sure it was still worth while buying.


I will probably work towards a ishtar as well then.
Josef Djugashvilis
#6 - 2014-01-02 23:02:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Captain Han Nerrus wrote:
I don't mind paying it I just wanted to make sure it was still worth while buying.


I will probably work towards a ishtar as well then.


Regular Domi + mjd + sentry drones.

No need for ammo, so the cost of the ship can be recovered over time.

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Captain Han Nerrus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-01-02 23:55:30 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Captain Han Nerrus wrote:
I don't mind paying it I just wanted to make sure it was still worth while buying.


I will probably work towards a ishtar as well then.


Regular Domi + mjd + sentry drones.

No need for ammo, so the cost of the ship is can be recovered over time.




Got a link to a nice build?
Bibosikus
Aliastra
#8 - 2014-01-03 10:46:19 UTC
[Dominix, L4]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Sensor Booster II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Drone Scope Chip I

Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warden II x5

800 thermal dps at 101km optimal. By far the best damage projection in the game and all for less than 220m isk.

Enjoy.


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Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-01-03 11:08:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Miasmos
Even though I've been advocating the Domi for a while, the Ishtar is now king of L4 (bar mach).

7AU/s warp speed blitzer with all damage types and very good projection. Edit for clarity: fit 2x warp speed rig II.
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-01-03 11:12:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Miasmos
Bibosikus wrote:
[Dominix, L4]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Sensor Booster II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Drone Scope Chip I

Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warden II x5

800 thermal dps at 101km optimal. By far the best damage projection in the game and all for less than 220m isk.

Enjoy.




^ This is the dominix fit that you are looking for, add tractor beam if you have CPU for it.

With the Rubicon warp changes, I'd also drop to warp speed rigs and ditch the glitched gardes now. The less your base warp speed, the more seconds the rigs save per mission.
Josef Djugashvilis
#11 - 2014-01-03 12:01:42 UTC
Captain Han Nerrus wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Captain Han Nerrus wrote:
I don't mind paying it I just wanted to make sure it was still worth while buying.


I will probably work towards a ishtar as well then.


Regular Domi + mjd + sentry drones.

No need for ammo, so the cost of the ship is can be recovered over time.




Got a link to a nice build?


The fit posted by Bibosikus pretty much covers it, any variation is for personal preference.

I use drones based on range, my Wardens can hit out to 129 km, so I use them to kill at range.

Gardes are simply brutal from about 60 km or so.

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Captain Han Nerrus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-01-03 16:33:42 UTC
Miasmos wrote:
Bibosikus wrote:
[Dominix, L4]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Armor Explosive Hardener II

Large Micro Jump Drive
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Sensor Booster II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Drone Scope Chip I
Large Drone Scope Chip I

Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warden II x5

800 thermal dps at 101km optimal. By far the best damage projection in the game and all for less than 220m isk.

Enjoy.




^ This is the dominix fit that you are looking for, add tractor beam if you have CPU for it.

With the Rubicon warp changes, I'd also drop to warp speed rigs and ditch the glitched gardes now. The less your base warp speed, the more seconds the rigs save per mission.



The gardes are bugged?
stoicfaux
#13 - 2014-01-03 17:01:43 UTC
Captain Han Nerrus wrote:
The gardes are bugged?

The Scope Chip rigs are not stacking penalized. It's why you can get ~100km of optimal with "short-range" Garde sentries.

Common Sense says they'll get nerfed.

OTOH, with the warp speed changes, warp speed rigs can make you more efficient at mission running (as opposed to using the rigs for DPS projection.)


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Captain Han Nerrus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-01-03 17:11:05 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Captain Han Nerrus wrote:
The gardes are bugged?

The Scope Chip rigs are not stacking penalized. It's why you can get ~100km of optimal with "short-range" Garde sentries.

Common Sense says they'll get nerfed.

OTOH, with the warp speed changes, warp speed rigs can make you more efficient at mission running (as opposed to using the rigs for DPS projection.)





Oh ok I thought maybe the gardes were broken :P

I think i will rather take the warp since I can easily switch drones.
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-01-03 23:39:35 UTC
Yes the other preferred use for scope chip rigs to make 245km sniper fits (lol drone assist 2sec lock with cloak and warpstabs) for risk free pvp. But that is uncommon so hence the "glitched gardes" whereby I meant scope rigs in general :)