EVE New Citizens Q&A

Or the other way around.

People reply in respect to how the question is asked.

If the same question is asked twice, the first time in a way that shows the person did his research, is open to suggestions and advice and in general comes across as friendly and mature. And then another time by someone who expects handholding, blames everybody and everything but himself and claims everybody is wrong but him.

Which one do you think gets the friendly replies andnwhich one gets the agressive replies.

Well 2 things about this thread.

1. It started in GD and then got moved here. IMO they should have moved it to CP.

2. If you look. Peo0pe started off with nice and good advice, only to be a called names by the OP because he didnt like the advice he was hearing. As NC said, if you dont want to listen to others....dont come and ask for help.

I still think the best advice in this thread was to drop your corp and join a different one until you know how to deal with these types of situations.

Having said that you can continue down the hard road of being a newb running a corp of newbs and seek out mercenaries to assist you, move to low sec, or deal with it in some other way. Generally though I would probably try and avoid calling people cowards unless you are trying to get them to fight you.

Either way I think there is probably enough decent advice in this thread to just call it a day (except I can't walk away! it is too good!).

Rule #4 = Do not set out to attack(insult) a player..
Rule #5 = Do not set out to insult(attack) a player.
Rule #18 = Do not insult(attack) "new" players.
Rule #3 = Do not go off on a tangent as it is a source for angry comments provoking further violation to Rules # 4, 5 and 18

but here's the kicker...

Rule #2 = Be courteous(dont attack/insult).

Does stating the same thing over and over appear a bit redundant to anybody else?

If so, and im just making an observation here, but is this redundancy not the result of a power rant and thus violating Rule #3?

You do know that reposting stuff that got deleted is against the rules.

And talking about wanting to hqve the last say in a discussion.

I was pointed to this thread from a newbie chat channel, as it was said there was good advice here.

After reading the whole thread, and being a new-ish player myself, I thought I'd give my impressions of the thread as a whole.

At first, I was inclined to feel for the OP, as he was trying to help new players learn the game, and was having issues with wardeccers.

However, by around page 3 my attitude had changed, since so many people had given great advice and were ignored by the OP.

Seriously, the advice given throughout this thread should be copy/pasted somewhere. I believe if more new CEO's would adhere to it, the overall level of gameplay within Eve would rise as strategies and tactics would have to be developed to deal with the advice here.

But, back to my impressions. By page 3 my attitude towards the OP was certainly negative, as his abusive and/or defensive attitude towards those who posted continued, and the best case scenario for anyone who did post would be limited to being ignored completely by the very person who asked for help in the first place.

By the end of the thread, where this very post appears, my attitude is now one of profiteering, and furthering my own enjoyment at the expense of someone else.

The OP's original attitude, though it might have changed a bit as he sobered up through the thread, has made me decide to create an alt on an alt account, and maybe more than 1, with the sole purpose being to infiltrate and/or annihilate the OP's corporation.

I am not saying this as a threat, or in any way trolling, but merely pointing out the impressions I got as I read through this thread. It should serve as a warning to posters that what you post can and many times will have repercussions outside the forums themselves.

Just a heads up. Have fun all!

o7

Nothing wrong with that reply.

And yes, thanks for proving the statement about always having the last word.

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Alt character of somebody's main detected.


DMC

double post

Can't tell if serious or sarcastic. Gonna go with the latter due to the remark about 'other kind of alt'.

By the way, that was posted for the benefit of new players. Also I'd like to remind you that not all characters in NPC corp's are alts..

'Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.'

So the actual truth is that one of the so called Vet's posting here decided to create an alt, lied and tried to metagame this thread as well as incite griefing and harassment towards the OP. Wouldn't be surprised if there was more than one self proclaimed 'Vet' doing that..

It's sad that this is the usual Modus Operandi in these forums, easily done due to hiding behind the anonymity of the Keyboard.

Heh, besides being a total fail, gotta say the usual meme = Post with your main or HTFU.

As for the attitude check, seems to me that advice applies to everyone who's posted in this thread, including myself. Wow, I didn't even count to 10 before posting that.




DMC

Ahhh, no rocks, just an observation.

The employment history doesn't mean much at all, especially since accounts have 3 different character slots available. Granted your character was created on 2014.01.05 @ 09:34 but that doesn't mean it's a brand new account. What I find ironic is your forum history only shows posted replies in this thread.

Gotta say your reply sounds a lot like a Vet trying to maintain the facade of being a brand new player. Seems to me this is just more web weaving.

Brand new players don't know about or even think about creating an alt character for posting in the forums in order to bypass 'repercussions', especially since they don't expect any 'repercussions' to happen. Usually that's advice gained from another forum user after being active for a while.

However, it's definitely common knowledge to a forum Vet. Some will create a forum alt real quickly just to avoid 'repercussions' due to their posting habits while others simply do it to validate their main characters replies, IE, metagame the forums..

Anyway, in my opinion this thread is done.


DMC