Ships & Modules

Gila or Cerberus?

I am currently flying a Tengu and loving her. Sleek sexy ship, however the lack of drones (with the most effective subsystems ofc) is bothersome and I don't like being a one boat man. I itching to buy a new ship just to be able to switch between two ships for running missions and I am torn between a Cerberus and a Gila. I would prefer to stay cursers as I have Caldari at L5 and I just like flying small ships with big bite. I only fly PVE L4 Caldari Navy Missions and occasionally participate in whatever chicanery my buddies get me into like running Anomalies and the like but this would always be a PVE boat (until I get jump'd that is) My Missile skills are good I am week away from being able to run TII launchers and I have 870,000 SP in Missiles and 587,000 in Drones so I am ok I can fly a decent set of Drones and will be able to rock sentries in a few days if I so chose. My shield and cap skills are good I can run all TecII.

So the meat of my question Gila vs Cerberus how are they at running L4's? I love the look of the Cerberus and I have a fondness for the venerable Caracal but I am leaning heavily towards the Gila as the novelty of using drones as my damage source and branching out into Gallente seems alluring. The Gila also seems like she would put forth a formidable tank (although here speed leaves something to be desired.) On the Other hand the Cerberus can still toss out a handful of drones and barfs missiles like there is no turning back and can chuck HAMs out to an impressive distance, and I do love me the missiles.

How do the Gila and Cerberus stack up in terms of DPS output, DPS application, and Tank Also are they at least on part with the Tengu?

So TL DR Gila or Cerberus for running L4 Caldari Navy Missions? Anyone who has flown the aforementioned ships particularly in PVE your advice and impute would be greatly appreciated. Any good fits would also be of use. Most fits I have found for the especially for the Cerberus are out of date and for PVP not PVE.

Gila>Tengu>Cerberus as far as L4 goes.

Gila is the most bang per buck too if you decide to use the same skills toward PvP your wallet will thank you.

The big catch is that Gila takes a ton more SP before you see it out preform a Tengu.

If you get all your drones T2 switch over. Until then stick with the Tengu.

It also shares more skills with the Rattlesnake which is king of god mode in L4's and is also cost effective on the PvP side.

This, Ishtar is far superior to a Gila because tank isn't a worry (I could tank missions like the Serpentis Assault in an Ishtar with nothing but a single medium armor rep and 2 aux pumps) and the sentry optimal+tracking bonus is extremely good. However as everyone said, train up your support skills first before thinking of switching ships, Gila/Ishtar both need good drone skills (T2 Sentries at and Drone Interfacing IV at least). Stick to the Tengu for now.

Drones will get eaten by most missions. Be very careful when using this option

Personally I would not use either of these ships but with no other choice I would use the cerb
a) higher base resists, less slots on tank
b) higher base damage, even non kinetic gets a good 500-600 dps with HAMs
c) good range, 50+km with javs, 30+ with rage
d) more cap stability - extremely important when flying a cruiser

And I'm sure the speed etc is higher too, basicly I see no reason to cross specialise in to gallente based on the info you've provided. Also must stress you should have never gotten in to that tengu without the adequate skills to fly it properly.

ishtar/gila and tengu are just way different skilling paths. The tengu is pretty damn good though, and quite versatile. Getting the most out of the sentry hulls requires gal cruiser 5, drone interfacing 5, and sentry drones 5, which are all lengthy trains. If you're already trained into missiles, I wouldn't cross train into sentry ships unless you plan to specialize in them, besides, the tengu is just too damned good to not put further SP into it if you're already flying one.

Gila, I prefer.

1. Gila can use the same drones with a battleship;
2. Train drones skill for Gila, then you wont have to train for Rattlesnake;
3. One day, if you feel borning in cruise, you can use a Rattlesnake instead;
4. Rattlesnake is quit a good ship for L4, safe and comfortable.

I think first of all, Domi is ugly ;
Second, missile of Snake can plus the dps, but domi can not.
Third, think about the situation when you are drop off from internet, lol, snake is more safe.

The tengu I run is buffer fit with omnitank against ganks. It has heavy missiles with CN bcus, rigor II and target painter. The key is warp subsystem with 2 warp rigs.

Stats are roughly 700dps, 50k ehp, 7 AU/s warp, 4s align, 600m/s ab and a small shield booster(never used, going to dump it for full buffer tank). Only factioned mods are bcus.

The Ishtar is a longer train, however, once in it you wont look back. It is just that much better and more versitile.

It can be armor or shield fit. Shield fit can sport a 100nm AB and drop heavies while you speed tank everything. With armor tank it reps both you and drones while you orbit Sentrys.

You can pretty much forget guns in the highs and put drone link aug, probe launcher, medium repper to allow you to mission, scan down sigs,whatever.

With a set of salvage drones and a mobile tractor, you can clean up after a mission (albeit slowly) without leaving, multiple MT's for multiole rooms if you like.

And, best of all, if you learn to PVP and get caught the Ishtar has very high survivability - I got nabbed by a Dram and Caracal in 0.0 and was able to do enough damage by swithcing drones to almost kill both and get out (they would have both dide if I had had a scram fitted).

Go Gila till you get the skills for the Ishtar,but it is a fantastic boat.

The other down side to the Gila is it stupidly horrible targeting range.