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Increase tractor beam range in marauders; Replace role bonus with per level bonus?
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logic principle3
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-01-01 22:41:59 UTC
So you are using t2 tractors and getting 48km tractor range. You are in bastion for the extra range, and raining hell from 40+ km away depending on the ship you are using.

In a Paladin, with decent skills, without tracking computers or enhancers (as a baseline), you have an optimal of 57km+31km with INMF. With the bastion deactivated your range becomes 45km+25km

In a Kronos fitted with rails you are hitting at 45km+56km, after 36km+45km.

Golem goes from 30km to 38km when using torps, or 45km to 57km when using javelin torps. When using cruise missiles the Golem's effective range is not really worth considering :P

Vargur is 3+36km which, when in bastion, rises to 3.8km+45km. This is using RF. Using Barrage your range is 6+54km- 7.5+68km. The vargur actually receives the least in terms of range bonus from the bastion module.


I know you are not in bastion for THAT long. but the beauty of a marauder is you do not have to mess around carebearing with alts and can simply carebear with your marauder carebear.

I propose that the 100% velocity and range bonus is changed for a 25-30% velocity and range per marauder skill level. At level 4, assuming a 25% bonus, you are exactly where you would be with the role bonus, which means at L5 marauders you have a tractor range of 54km. With the 30% bonus you add 7.2km each level, so at L4 you have a 52.8km range, and at level 5 you have a 60km range.

When you activate bastion you let the NPC's dictate the range of the engagement, and most battleship NPC's (where the most EHP in a L4 missions lies) orbit outside 50km.

A bonus like this just seems to fit the class, and the play style that the bastion encourages more. Alternatively, offer an incrreaase in tractor beam range while in bastion aswell as the range of weapons?
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#2 - 2014-01-01 22:51:58 UTC
brilliant idea.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#3 - 2014-01-01 23:07:25 UTC
You know... it wouldn't kill anyone to move a few km... Lol

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logic principle3
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-01-01 23:11:26 UTC  |  Edited by: logic principle3
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
You know... it wouldn't kill anyone to move a few km... Lol



In large missions, you move a few km, activate bastion (because its a large mission), next thing you know you are making wrecks outside of your tractor influence.

In smaller missions its not necissary to use bastion at all but in the ones where you require reach its an incredible module. Its cycle time is slow so position readjustment is tedious.

EDIT; I should point out that normally I would agree with you; I am a big supporter of using AB's and MWD's in missions as part of DPS projection and tank. I just think it would make the ship feel more complete if it was capable of tractoring within its influence rather than well beneath it.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-01-01 23:17:14 UTC
With my rail Kronos most of my wrecks are out in the 90km to 110km range.

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-01-02 00:38:17 UTC
eh, i do pulse-paladin because im masochistic.

so at most wrecks are just outside my tractor rage, though of course, for ones out at 100kn, MJD was invented FOR A REASON
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#7 - 2014-01-02 00:40:07 UTC
make the bastion module increase tractor beam percentage by a non-stacking-penalized 25-50%.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#8 - 2014-01-02 04:32:07 UTC
Just drop an MTU, turn drones to passive. And accept you will loose loot once in a while to a pirate. MTU's have 125km range or there abouts. (Which makes Marauder tb range even sadder.)