EVE General Discussion

Ok, time for me to make a post.

EULA this, EULA that..... It seems to me CCP bends the EULA as it pleases to answer to the pleas of the paying parties. The EULA is indeed a mechanism to keep the dumb ones in place. Even though CCP claims that all members of EVE online are treated equally, theres a covert border set which favors the paying customer. We all know this, but remain silent. Granted, customers feed CCP with big bucks, but then again, we all here participate in an environment where all acts render this into a playable aspect of the EVE community.

So ive been thinking... RL is in no way related to EVE and therefore does not affect the EULA :)

Now Im going to quote something I heard on the fanfest where a CCP employee or their next of kin said or just some random pothead that was passing by and managed to get into the dome for free beer and weed. Its freeform due to the fact that I cant remember the exact use of words, but the context is the same.

".... If player A does something to player B or sets into motion an act that prevents player B from achieving his ingame goals, it is most definitely not an EULA breach...." - Really, CCP, really?!?!?

Youtube claim - (....some fecker called out to some poor ol' geezer to commit suicide, theres a vid about it on youtube, happened at a fanfest, fecker got a wristslap....)

If my memory serves me well, there was also an incident in Italy known to a few where two EVE players assaulted each other, where one player inflicted minor wounds on the other guy. If the Italians read this, I hope the ones that know about the incident verify it before the "aww, youre just talking random ****!!!" flamers kick off. I agree, minor inflicted wounds are still overseeable, but ingame stress and anxiety can lead to much harsher outcomes. As we all see it and watch on youtube, theres players in the game who are more sensitive to this type of play then the rest.

I am a law abiding individual and a god fearing man, but it has occurred to me that the above posted can be used to mislead ppl into a criminal violation. Unfortunately, CCP constantly breaks their own ingame rules, theres no black or white optional inhibitors to a set of principles, but lots of shady grey dealings between CCP and some ingame individuals. Again, some get favored, some dont. It is what it is. So, the normal player has nothing left to do apart from two options which are handed down to him by the EULA: 1) Leave the game or 2) Hit back by using the option of gaining advantages by misconduct in RL, whatever they may be.

I morally support and encourage any player that breaches (ingame) the EULA and gets away with it. **** the establishment!. But at this point, all this EULA crap is more a farce then something which all players should abide by. And in some cases, really dangerous.

I demand a new set of rules which would prohibit the unfair advantages of 3rd party programs, EVE related gambling and unethical behavior. Either set a standard for the EULA or delete it.

I support the OP is his efforts to have a downvote function added to the forums.

INBTL as ccp will come up with somthing to make it happen

Yes, really.

That's substantially what the game is about. Player A (or group A) contesting with player/group B to achieve goals, whether opposed, aligned, tangential or incompatible.

You set your goal. I set mine. If they conflict, we operate within the rules of the game and may the best player win.

























Sucker.

Italy has managed to patch a solution for this already. In Italy's EULA, they've included a guideline about it being against the rules to assault one another in public. They've even invented an enforcement mechanism. There is a PC run corp known as "the Police" that punish infractions in game. Much like CONCORD they are more of an avenging force rather than a deterrent. They find players who have violated the EULA, gank their bodies, and then refuse to allow them to log back on to society until their temporary societal ban has run out.

I tried to follow the train of thought in the OP but it kept ducking into dark alleys and doubling back on itself and i lost it.
Did he lose all his isk to somer or something?

What is happening in New Eden, must stay in New Eden (wormholes included).

WTF is this ******* ****** rambling about?

I got to...



...then drank another beer.

The EULA does prohibit the use of unfair third party programs. It is just up to CCP what is fair & unfair in their game. not up to you as a single player.

Is it me or is the OP blaming a varying interpretation of the EULA by CCP for two people in Italy beating the crap out of each other?

Like somehow if the CCP GMs would have just enforced the EULA differently they could have stopped this violent act of aggression.

Maybe we can talk to CCP about ending the violence in Darfur or Syria or...

WTF?