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Gallente ship fits for Factional Warfare - a modest guide
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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#21 - 2013-12-31 23:45:38 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Keko Khaan wrote:

Yea im with you but.. I have flown atron myself too and in my opinion rail kiting atron is the best atron atleast in 1vs1 fights. I myself fly sometimes atron with rails, web, point or scram (depending opponent if i know it and if i have possibility to refit for it). Anyways tristan might be most op t1 frig atm. Its versatible like u can kill brawlers and kiters easy aslong ur drones can catchup... Atleast thats how my rail tristan works...

The atron has other advantages over the tristan that don't translate to 1v1 very well (speed, quickness, instant application of dps, does not have to pick up drones, cost)
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-12-31 23:55:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Keko Khaan
X Gallentius wrote:
Keko Khaan wrote:

Yea im with you but.. I have flown atron myself too and in my opinion rail kiting atron is the best atron atleast in 1vs1 fights. I myself fly sometimes atron with rails, web, point or scram (depending opponent if i know it and if i have possibility to refit for it). Anyways tristan might be most op t1 frig atm. Its versatible like u can kill brawlers and kiters easy aslong ur drones can catchup... Atleast thats how my rail tristan works...

The atron has other advantages over the tristan that don't translate to 1v1 very well (speed, quickness, instant application of dps, does not have to pick up drones, cost)


Yea it does if u mean less tank, less dps and by instant dmg application to get in blaster range without web... Atleast the linked shield fit atron woulda died even to rifter who knows how to fit/fly... I do know it fast tho... Hence i said it might work as cheap t1 tackler in fleets.. And even better with shield logi support however it is not that good frig fit unless ur a tackler to more skilled shiled fleet that has logi...

Anyhow pro pvp anyways is to pick right ship and fit it correctly to match hostile fit.. And then bring links in and ur even more op..
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-01-01 00:39:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Keko Khaan
However i add some atron fit id use to be more pro.. ab, rails, web, long point, sar, mag stab, dmg control and rigs by taste/enemy...
But its not a fit to catch navy slicers etc.. For that i would go something like firetail or another slicer etc.. Heck even a tristan...
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#24 - 2014-01-01 02:53:35 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
What part of "not a solo ship" did you not read? Theorycraft all you want. These ships are proven effective from countless plex and other fights in lowsec FW.
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-01-01 03:55:47 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
What part of "not a solo ship" did you not read? Theorycraft all you want. These ships are proven effective from countless plex and other fights in lowsec FW.


So u did come on forums to find t1 fleet frigs..? Yea im sorry atron is not one of them on top of the list.. Why? Because there are better medium shield tacklers than atron but im sure it can do the job also. Alltho seems ive missed the point about "not solo frig".

Soo sorry for trying be pro here but after all im just king of heimatar and metropolis markets lol
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#26 - 2014-01-01 07:30:07 UTC
Keko Khaan wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
What part of "not a solo ship" did you not read? Theorycraft all you want. These ships are proven effective from countless plex and other fights in lowsec FW.


So u did come on forums to find t1 fleet frigs..? Yea im sorry atron is not one of them on top of the list.. Why? Because there are better medium shield tacklers than atron but im sure it can do the job also. Alltho seems ive missed the point about "not solo frig".

Soo sorry for trying be pro here but after all im just king of heimatar and metropolis markets lol

I think you also missed the 1.2 million isk ship part of it too. There are better small gang ships out there, but not for the price.
Castnicke Rinah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2014-01-01 13:07:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Castnicke Rinah
Like XG says, the derptron costs about 1.2m to build. It is a ship that is supposed to deal as much damage as it can until it dies. And then you go get another one.

It is not a 1v1 ship, in fact the only thing it's gonna kill in 1v1 is weak kite ships such as a condor or similar.

And what **** does King of Heimatar and Metropolis market even mean?!

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As for the derptron fit linked earlier with Electron Blasters.. yeah, your dmg number in EFT is higher but have you actually tried the fit in game? Your guns have an optimal at about 600-700, it's down right terrible. You're not gettng any more dps since you can't hit ****.
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-01-02 05:09:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Keko Khaan
Castnicke Rinah wrote:
Like XG says, the derptron costs about 1.2m to build. It is a ship that is supposed to deal as much damage as it can until it dies. And then you go get another one.

It is not a 1v1 ship, in fact the only thing it's gonna kill in 1v1 is weak kite ships such as a condor or similar.

And what **** does King of Heimatar and Metropolis market even mean?!

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As for the derptron fit linked earlier with Electron Blasters.. yeah, your dmg number in EFT is higher but have you actually tried the fit in game? Your guns have an optimal at about 600-700, it's down right terrible. You're not gettng any more dps since you can't hit ****.



LoL i was just joking drunken about king of markets.. Anyhow just stated my opinion dont need to get so mad over it..
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-01-02 05:37:21 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Keko Khaan wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
What part of "not a solo ship" did you not read? Theorycraft all you want. These ships are proven effective from countless plex and other fights in lowsec FW.


So u did come on forums to find t1 fleet frigs..? Yea im sorry atron is not one of them on top of the list.. Why? Because there are better medium shield tacklers than atron but im sure it can do the job also. Alltho seems ive missed the point about "not solo frig".

Soo sorry for trying be pro here but after all im just king of heimatar and metropolis markets lol

I think you also missed the 1.2 million isk ship part of it too. There are better small gang ships out there, but not for the price.


As if there werent other MSE t1 frigs? Like merlin for example? Might not be as fast but has more tank and dps works nicely in fleets or solo. Wasnt really gonna start a fight over atron. Just stated my opinion..
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#30 - 2014-01-02 14:51:56 UTC
Merlins lack of speed is its downfall.

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Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#31 - 2014-01-02 15:05:19 UTC
Warrior II, the anti-kite drone.

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#32 - 2014-01-02 16:28:26 UTC
Keko Khaan wrote:
As if there werent other MSE t1 frigs? Like merlin for example? Might not be as fast but has more tank and dps works nicely in fleets or solo. Wasnt really gonna start a fight over atron. Just stated my opinion..
np, it's all good.
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2014-01-02 17:37:03 UTC
You all miss the most importand part of the derptron. Its not only a ship, its a way of life, its a monument to our love for overheated antimatter, thrown right at other peoples faces like monkeys throwing with poop.

The derptron is also the most fun ship to fly EVER.

The Butcher of Black Rise - eve-radio.com
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