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X ATM092 - Mistakes was made in a contract, he's refusing to make good
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Infinite Force
#1 - 2013-12-31 19:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinite Force
http://evewho.com/pilot/X%20ATM092

I've been selling compressed items to X ATM092 for a long time now.

Recently I was contracting him a set of compressed items, but due to the limit on contracted and stacked minerals there was a mistake made in the contract. (Basically the game cannot handle more then 2.1b in "items" like trit in a contract, which is something i didnt run into before now...... thanks CCP!)

In short, X ATM092 received 13,805 in 425mm guns but only "paid" for 7,805 of them in minerals.

I've had a long history with him and once i realized what happened i contacted him about the issue.

His response was basically too bad.

http://i.imgur.com/hTzHmEf.png

EVE is EVE and due to game mechanics a mistake was made..... but dont trust this guy anymore sadly.

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Caldari State
#2 - 2013-12-31 19:49:18 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
*Snip* Please refrain from using profanity. ISD Ezwal

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Tah'ris Khlador
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Break-A-Wish Foundation
#3 - 2013-12-31 21:19:52 UTC
Sounds to me like X ATM092 received a Holiday Special for being such a regular client of yours.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-12-31 21:46:10 UTC
eh, you made a mistake and got burned. The guy seems fine to do business with, just don't expect him to pay you back for stuff.

As for the 2.1 billion item limit, 2,147,483,648 (2^31) is the maximum value of a signed integer. Do you know if splitting the items into multiple stacks is a workaround?

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X ATM092
The Hatchery
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#5 - 2013-12-31 22:08:29 UTC  |  Edited by: X ATM092
We're not business partners at all, he's done 1 job for me and this wasn't it. Our only previous contract was a single compression job in November which I don't think really counts as working together for a while. This wasn't a commissioned job, this was him just offering to sell me some stuff, making a contract and me accepting.
X ATM092
The Hatchery
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#6 - 2013-12-31 22:10:12 UTC  |  Edited by: X ATM092
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
eh, you made a mistake and got burned. The guy seems fine to do business with, just don't expect him to pay you back for stuff.

As for the 2.1 billion item limit, 2,147,483,648 (2^31) is the maximum value of a signed integer. Do you know if splitting the items into multiple stacks is a workaround?

Splitting stacks is a functional workaround, also all of his stacks were considerably light, not just trit, his story about the maximum amount is false and wouldn't make sense unless this involved a stack of 2b zydrine.
D400
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#7 - 2013-12-31 22:44:25 UTC
X ATM092 wrote:
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
eh, you made a mistake and got burned. The guy seems fine to do business with, just don't expect him to pay you back for stuff.

As for the 2.1 billion item limit, 2,147,483,648 (2^31) is the maximum value of a signed integer. Do you know if splitting the items into multiple stacks is a workaround?

Splitting stacks is a functional workaround, also all of his stacks were considerably light, not just trit, his story about the maximum amount is false.

It seems like Infinite Force is a liar and a scammer then. Thank you for this valuable information, I'll make sure to set him red.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#8 - 2014-01-01 03:01:14 UTC
*OP crying on the forums*

TLDR OP screwed up, blames customer for keeping free stuff.

Roll

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Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-01-01 17:23:26 UTC
Infinite Force wrote:
http://evewho.com/pilot/X%20ATM092

I've been selling compressed items to X ATM092 for a long time now.

Recently I was contracting him a set of compressed items, but due to the limit on contracted and stacked minerals there was a mistake made in the contract. (Basically the game cannot handle more then 2.1b in "items" like trit in a contract, which is something i didnt run into before now...... thanks CCP!)

In short, X ATM092 received 13,805 in 425mm guns but only "paid" for 7,805 of them in minerals.

I've had a long history with him and once i realized what happened i contacted him about the issue.

His response was basically too bad.

http://i.imgur.com/hTzHmEf.png

EVE is EVE and due to game mechanics a mistake was made..... but dont trust this guy anymore sadly.


LOL.
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Dain Rokjaw
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-01-03 13:30:03 UTC
Interestingly, if you check contract history of each pilot there's no contracts between the two of them, Infinite Force hasn't completed ANY contracts since November, and the only thing Atmo bought in November was ship blueprints not compressed anything...
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#11 - 2014-01-03 14:45:24 UTC
Dain Rokjaw wrote:
Interestingly, if you check contract history of each pilot there's no contracts between the two of them, Infinite Force hasn't completed ANY contracts since November, and the only thing Atmo bought in November was ship blueprints not compressed anything...



lol, probably because they weren't public contracts.

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Dave Stark
#12 - 2014-01-03 15:34:54 UTC
tl:dr

op ****** up, now he's whining about his own stupidity.
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GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2014-01-03 15:37:39 UTC
X ATM092 is clearly a good man, a good eve player, and gave you a good lesson. I hope you appreciated his generosity in training you in how numbers work.

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ErrorRon
Turbo-Encabulator LLC
#14 - 2014-01-04 10:15:43 UTC
This story. Its pretty cool. Bro.

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Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#15 - 2014-01-10 12:14:34 UTC
Technical question: You've been doing business with this guy for some time. Why did you make a contract differently than the other times and get yourself burned?

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X ATM092
The Hatchery
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#16 - 2014-01-10 12:19:05 UTC
Sylphy wrote:
Technical question: You've been doing business with this guy for some time. Why did you make a contract differently than the other times and get yourself burned?

technical answer, we had not been doing business for some time, he just saw a topic I made in the WTB thread and mailed me
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#17 - 2014-01-10 16:16:08 UTC
Caveat vendor, dude.
Ketov Aktar
Grey Wolff
#18 - 2014-01-11 17:31:25 UTC
Pro Tip: Don't make contracts while drinking or......ShockedIdea