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CEO Passed away and CCP won't help.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2011-11-23 03:27:56 UTC
I can see that, i am just naive about people decency. And i always fail.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#42 - 2011-11-23 03:33:47 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
I can see that, i am just naive about people decency. And i always fail.


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Brock Nelson
#43 - 2011-11-23 03:36:30 UTC
Can I have his stuff

Oh wait...

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Amro One
One.
#44 - 2011-11-23 03:48:29 UTC
Morons, that why you assign directors and shares so you can vote on **** like this, like unlocking BPOs

Teaches you to not have a dictatorship.

You all fail at corp management
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2011-11-23 03:49:18 UTC
Amro One wrote:
Morons, that why you assign directors and shares so you can vote on **** like this, like unlocking BPOs

Teaches you to not have a dictatorship.

You all fail at corp management


And you fail at reading comprehension. Happens, just dont know what is worse.
ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#46 - 2011-11-23 04:17:50 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Amro One wrote:
Morons, that why you assign directors and shares so you can vote on **** like this, like unlocking BPOs

Teaches you to not have a dictatorship.

You all fail at corp management


And you fail at reading comprehension. Happens, just dont know what is worse.


No, he fails in trolling and fails to make what is a valid and correct point here ....

CCP's policy is quite clear on this. The stuff under the personal control of your CEO is his stuff not the corps. Under no circumstances - even death - will CCP take stuff from a players personal hangar (other than EULA violations or RMT ing ) and give it to another player. When you created contracts the way you did, you gave your stuff to another player - which means it is now his stuff.

To avoid these kind of circumstances, you need better corporation management policies. ie use corp contracts not personal contracts, have multiple directors, use votes to lock down BPO's etc.

If a director stole all your stuff and went AFK, you would be sh*t out of luck. In this case, its very sad that someone died, but sorry, you're still sh*t out of luck here.

And no, it would not be the first time that somebody was known to have died in real life and then suddenly came back very much alive again on Teamspeak one day.
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#47 - 2011-11-23 07:25:56 UTC
First off i am sorry for the OP's loss,and i know this is not quite on topic but would be interesting to know.

First some backstory. We have a corp member that have been with us for years and both me and my CEO consider him a close and personal friend (sadly he missed our wedding,so we have no yet met in real life Sad ).
He works as a firefighter and a couple of years back he had a nasty accident. Short version is that he fell trough 3 floors in a burning building and spendt months in rehab. He is now completely fine exept some scars and a limp. But after this he started to question what to do if he has another accident. Now considering who im talking about i cant say for sure if he is serius or not,but it honestly wouldent suprise me.

More or less what he did is to tell his lawyer that in the even that he did die all his ingame assets (assets,not his char) would go to the corp. But according to the EULA it would in theory count as account sharing since the lawyer would have to log onto his character and give us all his assets,or he would have to go trough CCP and have them give them to us.

I guess my question really is,saying that someone actually DID will all their assets in EVE,could it actually be done?

Right now he is unable to play due to expecting his second kid but im sure he would find this interesting when he returns Smile

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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#48 - 2011-11-23 07:39:53 UTC
OP.

Just let it go mate.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#49 - 2011-11-23 07:54:37 UTC
Just goes to show you that a bunch of spacepixels is valued on the same scale as a human life.

To be honest, if I ever buy the farm offline, I'd want to be given a viking funeral in EVE. Put my frozen corpse inside a ship (fit with at least one loaded gun). Then shoot the ship to half hull so it sets on fire, and bump it toward the sun. Not sure how to ask a lawyer for this without getting security called on me, though.

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Gerald Taric
NEO DYNAMICS
#50 - 2011-11-23 08:50:17 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
Also if he passed away, wouldn't his bank account close and thus his game account essentially stop dead?


You'd be surprised with how many fucks a bank gives to someone who died =)

My father passed away 7 years ago with an unpaid debt, and the bank still sends letters to my house asking him to pay up, and offering deals and such. Mind you, the bank isn't asking me or anyone else for that matter, its asking him

One time i even considered sending a note of "adress change" to the bank so that they would send the bills to the cemetery instead.. but i don't think the old man deserves to be bothered tbh

I do not know, in which country you are living. As far as i know you might get a paper from government agency "certifying" that your father passed away. With this (depending on where you live) you also might get some official papers stating, that you are the inheritor. The bank then should be able to change the state of that bank account. AFAIK in my country (Germany) you have to decice within a few weeks, if you want to accept the possessions and (!) debts of the decedent, or if you refuse to take them (as a whole, you can't pick the + and left the - / it's "all or nothing" ).
L Salander
All Web Investigations
#51 - 2011-11-23 09:40:54 UTC  |  Edited by: L Salander
If it was in his hangar and contracted to/by him personally then it is his stuff, not corps. Next time make the CEO do everything legit rather than pulling corp assets into his personal, private wallet and hangar. Sucks for you, but lesson learned, right?
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2011-11-23 11:12:37 UTC
He should have had a clone waiting before he was podded irl, then you wouldnt be having these problems now would you?
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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2011-11-23 12:19:09 UTC
This is why you need to have your will up to date people. "to my beloved chribba, i leave my vast stock of veldspar"

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
chrisss0r
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2011-11-23 12:31:16 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Sorry but how does CCP know he actually died and you're not just scamming him on his vacation?

Sucks but if i could just say 'hey my ceo died gimme his stuffs' there wouldnt be many corporations left in eve


by contacting the account owner ? like via e-mail ???

Then finish it with following line

If you dont answer this email in *some time* we would consider *some action* as appropriate ..

f.e. ??

Either way its not like its impossible. Even if he is not, not responding to such email will actually cover the come-back rage.



sorry but that is a terrible idea. In any legal system around the world there is no way to transfer ownership without a declaration of intent.

With the same right you could just put a note on any parked car that say "if you don't show up and tell me not to take this car within 24 hours i'll just consider it mine". Sounds stupid?
Well it is and same goes for your idea

that's a good thing about our legal system: that your property is protected by law even if you are not sitting on it with a baseball bat 24/7
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2011-11-23 12:41:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
chrisss0r wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Terminal Insanity wrote:
Sorry but how does CCP know he actually died and you're not just scamming him on his vacation?

Sucks but if i could just say 'hey my ceo died gimme his stuffs' there wouldnt be many corporations left in eve


by contacting the account owner ? like via e-mail ???

Then finish it with following line

If you dont answer this email in *some time* we would consider *some action* as appropriate ..

f.e. ??

Either way its not like its impossible. Even if he is not, not responding to such email will actually cover the come-back rage.



sorry but that is a terrible idea. In any legal system around the world there is no way to transfer ownership without a declaration of intent.

With the same right you could just put a note on any parked car that say "if you don't show up and tell me not to take this car within 24 hours i'll just consider it mine". Sounds stupid?
Well it is and same goes for your idea

that's a good thing about our legal system: that your property is protected by law even if you are not sitting on it with a baseball bat 24/7


It sound stupid. Yet anything in game include your character, your assets, just about everything is not your property. Its "property" of CCP from very start to the end.
Anyway post 46 is quite clear about "the issue". SO i would leave it at that.
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