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So yeah sentrys OP much?

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#121 - 2013-12-29 09:05:00 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Removed a post with GM correspondence.

That rule is too ******* broad to be helpful. In this case not allowing us to share the GM correspondence in question hurts things more than it helps. GM confirmation of the existence of a bug is not something that need be kept confidential between the two parties involved.

You should not have removed that post.
In any case, anyone who still wants to see it will be able to find it on eve-search

Don't they remove any posts discussing moderation, and then any posts quoting those, and then posts discussing those?

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#122 - 2013-12-29 10:04:37 UTC
This might be a bug, but perhaps it's something the game needs. Mainly that one in a million shot that lets something small destroy something overpowered.

A great example would be from Star Wars, with that small fleet of X-Wings taking down a Death Star. EVE might get spiced up a bit if you didn't need to be a bittervet to cause meaningful losses to other bittervets.

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Sid Crash
#123 - 2013-12-29 10:35:53 UTC
"this person is not blue to me and therefore I'll shitpost using moronic reasoning and logic just to fck up the thread, who gives a damn if it's an actual problem that may, at some point, actually affect me myself".


Every dumb poster in this thread.
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#124 - 2013-12-29 11:46:51 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:

That rule is too ******* broad to be helpful. In this case not allowing us to share the GM correspondence in question hurts things more than it helps. GM confirmation of the existence of a bug is not something that need be kept confidential between the two parties involved.

You should not have removed that post.
In any case, anyone who still wants to see it will be able to find it on eve-search

Goons complaining about fascist forum moderation? What has the world come to...
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#125 - 2013-12-29 11:51:48 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Cypherous wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Lupo diCotze wrote:
While it looks glitchy and something awry server side - you were in armor - so only 15% resists from the DC II - not 60%.

Aren't the figures in the log showing dmg after resists have been taken into account?

And after armor comes structure, hence the 60% resist.
He also had 3(?) reinforced bulkhead IIs, bringing his structure HP up to 335,693.

The two sentries hit for 129,893 and 121,148 damage after resists. If this damage were done entirely to structure it would have been about 314,000 average raw damage per sentry.

Just to demonstrate how ridiculous this is: a Bouncer II on a fully skilled Ishtar with 5x "Unit W-634's Drone Damage Amplifier" has a volley damage of 654, which means in the very best case scenario you'll get wrecking shots 1% of the time for 1,962 damage (before resists). Not 300,000+ damage.
Even if every sentry had a wrecking shot (which has a (0.01 ^ 5) = 1 in 10 billion chance of happening) it would only deal 9,804 damage total. And then it would show five wrecking shots, not just one.


I think i've spotted the "issue" you mentioned he was refitting, the damage those sentries did is about the same as the hull he would have "gained" from the bulkheads, which means all those drones actually did was reduce his hull to the level it was at prior to him refitting during a fight, to be fair i'm against the whole refitting during a fight myself, if you start a fight you should commit to it, it would be like starting a boxing match then half way through a round you slip a brick in to your right glove and start hitting the other guy, if you start something you should be prepared to finish it imo, but thats not what CCP chose to do they instead opted to use a system which could break in these interesting ways :P

No, that's not what happened.

I'm betting if they ever do fix it and say what was up that it will be dcus getting turned off or on while using depots. More than happy to jump on sisi and shooting you in an Ishtar while ya refit to try to replicate it.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#126 - 2013-12-29 11:58:04 UTC
I suspect the timing has to be exact for this to happen, which is why we see it in the case of many drones shooting. I don't think we're likely to replicate it with a single ishtar.

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