EVE General Discussion

Mining in Eve in a nutshell. That's PvE in general. Gathering (i.e. farming of that ice.)
I wonder if CCP ever plans to make it more entertaining and interactive?


So far we've got afkers/botters/napping-at-keyboard-people vs Erotica 1 fellowship and the likes.
Then you get the forums trashed with threads by the gankers and the gankees. Pretty much on regular basis.
Some may say you need to feed amoebas to the plankton.

I guess even winning position of an independent observer can be depressing.

Anyone else doesn't wanna touch the PvE content with 10-feet pole?
Crappy PvE frightens your new customers, but most players learn Eve basics starting with PvE.

I see the standard GD forum response is going to show up as usual: "But Eve is all about PvP."
Then why does PvE exist? Make this world of tanks in space then.

What we have now is the "sandboxy" highsec with its reeking cat litter in it. That's where the most of the players and/or their alts are located.

Could we get it refreshed, pretty please? Maybe for the next Christmas?

P.S. Filled out the survey, but it makes me wonder how many players participated.

In Before:
"eve is dying" - bs, it's been dying for too long, could it be undead now? Can we add vampires and werewolves and call it WoD maybe?
"eve is all about pvp" - you are the writer, not the reader, gotcha.
"stealthy/not-so-stealthy nerf hisec/nullsec thread" - if "nerf" were to mean make it work - sure, why not?

haha i bookmarked that, give me something to do along with my ship spins

If the PvE is crap then blowing someone up means more because you know they have to go back to the horrible grind. If you were sending them back to have fun, that wouldn't really ruin their day, would it.

"It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail"

-- Gore Vidal

Go on......

oh theres plenty fo variation in mining, why, i think people have attempted to gank me with no less than 10 separate ****-fit caracals.

apparently they dont expect a full-tank retriever, JUST strong enough to laugh at them in a 0.5 when they try and gank.

though since ive started mining in lowsec, its usually safer.

High sec really is the ****box of EVE, isn't it?

Honestly not sure if I'm in yet another troll thread... it's just too hard to keep up... but serious time now...

Whenever I see a thread where people genuinely complain about the general suck that is EVE PvE, no one ever mentions nullsec belts, Sansha incursions, or teaming up against Sleepers in wormholes (and doing other WH stuffs). I understand that it often seems like PvE is the last thing on CCP's mind, but what about objective-based additions like Ghost Sites?

Agreed, mining is the lowest and most basic form of PvE, because there's no "v" in it. It's just PE. Player Environment. zzz. It is a pursuit fit only for fresh meat, alts in null sec or high sec set up to bank big resources, and the sort of people who enjoy games like Euro Truck Simulator (yes, I bought that game on Steam, shut up shut up shut up).

Exploration can be a lonely and boring world to live in too, but what about being creative? Smuggle drugs. Get into manufacturing or blueprint trading or ship flipping. What about a transport career? Or how about you just bite the bullet and get set up for a life in WH where PvE opportunities are real and viable?

Not to say PvE people don't have a gripe when it comes to some of these PvE timesinks and the min/max crap and being exploited left, right and center by savvy gankers and market griefers and other HTFULOL types, but if you aren't going to get involved in PvP in this game (which is it pretty much optimized for), you either have to fight the environment or manipulate it.

Creativity is a prerequisite in this regard. And you also have to make friends. To do PvE friend things. Seriously, if all the things mentioned in the OP are boring as **** for you, it is possible to crank up the challenge.

Nope, remove PvE content completely, force FW across the board - for NPC corporations.
Reward LP/Isk for the kills, let the NPC supply limited amounts of raw materials for production(just like skill books/BPOs).
We are are freaking capsuleers, demigods in capsules (versus ship crew slaves, etc.,) why do we have to the dirty work? Primitive PvE grind feels like work. It is Concord that should shoot damn rats, and we should tax it instead!

Shoot opposing faction supply lines that goes through empire systems, get shot by opposing faction militia and so on.

We could earn the Isk getting paid for the service by the republic/democracy/empire/capitalist state or pirate faction or in many case - player corporation. In the end something needs to get fixed.

Eve would be true PvP game (only about PvP) if it were designed like any FPS game, where a player from opposing team is a KOS, but the probability of PvP interaction doesn't approach zero.
Eve as it is is too lenient, which is at the same time main reason many do not ever get in pvp at all - they are chronically carebear.

/wtb ship spinning counter with achievements system built in.

If I can strip an entire system in 10 minutes solo, sure. Because that's how fast a hacker can strip a system of sigs.

Some ppl got the nanites in the sarcasm-o-meter self-aware, or that's a side effect of too much mining and hitting the head on the rocks in space