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Where are the CSM 8 Summer summit minutes ?

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#101 - 2013-12-28 15:24:48 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
jeez you guys are impatient

I'd be pretty upset at this post if I didn't realize you were trolling.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Plug in Baby
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2013-12-28 15:27:06 UTC
Seriously stop complaining about lack of minutes, use your brain people, either:

A) CCP doesn't care what CSM say so why should anyone else?

or

B) CCP do listen and CSM have been advising them to handout ships and condone RMT, in which case you already know the jist of the minutes anyway.

/thread

This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main.
Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
#103 - 2013-12-28 15:42:23 UTC
Plug in Baby wrote:
Seriously stop complaining about lack of minutes, use your brain people, either:

A) CCP doesn't care what CSM say so why should anyone else?

The issue with the delay is exactly what you said. At least that's the way it currently appears. It brings up the whole relevancy of the CSM. Is it even worth it? Up until this extensive delay, there really seemed to be a growth in the relevancy of the CSM. Now it gives the impression that we, or rather CCP, are back peddling. Who knows, maybe that's the goal of CCP. To get people to care less about the CSM so they can get rid of it all together?

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B) CCP do listen and CSM have been advising them to handout ships and condone RMT, in which case you already know the jist of the minutes anyway.

You honestly can't expect people to accept that option. You can't know the "jist of the minutes" without something tangible. Besides, CCP have been doing that for years even before the CSM (mostly)
Plug in Baby
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2013-12-28 16:13:06 UTC
Ambassador Crane wrote:

You honestly can't expect people to accept that option.


To be honest I didn't expect anyone to believe B. But yeah what you said, I don't think we'll see that many more iterations of CSM.

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Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#105 - 2013-12-28 17:08:00 UTC
CCP Dolan wrote:
Freelancer117 wrote:
How can CCP still approve these minutes when it has literally been MONTHS


I have video recordings of all of the sessions, and I have a pretty excellent memory.


So why don't you remember owing me a couple trillion ISK?
Master Hu
Dirt Nap Squad
#106 - 2013-12-28 17:16:43 UTC
I would say that the next CSM election needs to be all new people, all new Alliance's or Corps and see if we can get some action that way.

I don't buy that the CSM delivered the notes and are now waiting for CCP to publish them. Get on the stick, call them every day, do what you were elected to do and represent the paying base. There is no reason for further delay.
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#107 - 2013-12-28 17:49:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Little Dragon Khamez
Malcanis wrote:
jeez you guys are impatient


Way to go at representing us. That is your job, isn't it?

Edit: Actually Malcanis's post more than anything I've read makes me wonder what is the point of the CSM. It's clearly not working and a failed stab at representation by CCP. I suggest that we call for the CSM to be shut down and no further CSM's elected as it has failed both CCP and the player community at large.

If the CSM mattered we'd have the minutes by now. The fact that CCP Dolan is working on a new system of managing the minutes shouldn't affect us (the customers of CCP) in any way. We certainly shouldn't be inconvenienced by internal changes at CCP, if so that is bad customer service.

So clearly the CSM is unimportant and CCP can better invest the money they spend on free trips to Iceland on funding the salaries or overtime of Developers as that is money well spent.

Lets all take time to end the CSM now and Malcanis can go down in Eve history as the man who brought it all to and end with his belligerent attitude to the players he supposedly represents.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
#108 - 2013-12-28 18:20:46 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
jeez you guys are impatient

I'd be pretty upset at this post if I didn't realize you were trolling.


  • Thread questioning CSM relevency to both players and CCP
  • CSM member posts obvious troll in thread consisting of a degrading comment

Unfortunately I'm guessing most will fail to see the humor here and won't be surprised to see a lot of backlash. Trolling successful perhaps. However, I'd like to believe we could expect a higher standard (jokes included P) from our so-called representatives.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#109 - 2013-12-28 23:35:33 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
jeez you guys are impatient

I'd be pretty upset at this post if I didn't realize you were trolling.


The best part is that geuninely self-deprecating irony is also genuinely trolling to people who think that the word means "tastes like iron".

Oh, and people who feel "degraded" by it. That's the best too.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#110 - 2013-12-28 23:37:44 UTC
Master Hu wrote:
I would say that the next CSM election needs to be all new people.


13 of the current 14 CSM members are new.

Perhaps you meant to say that the next CSM needs more experience?



Or possibly super-powers. Those would be pretty cool.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#111 - 2013-12-28 23:45:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Logical 101
Malcanis wrote:
Or possibly super-powers. Those would be pretty cool.

Look man, the Justice League is cool and all, but the fact remains they never did anything for me personally. I mean, they say they're there to protect the earth from villains, monsters and various nondescript galactic terrors, but when was the last time they moved my car to the other side of the street so I wouldn't get a ticket?

It's the little things that count.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#112 - 2013-12-28 23:56:21 UTC
I move for a Vote of No Confidence in Chancellor Valorum's leadership.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#113 - 2013-12-29 00:00:11 UTC
Logical 101 wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Or possibly super-powers. Those would be pretty cool.

Look man, the Justice League is cool and all, but the fact remains they never did anything for me personally. I mean, they say they're there to protect the earth from villains, monsters and various nondescript galactic terrors, but when was the last time they moved my car to the other side of the street so I wouldn't get a ticket?

It's the little things that count.



ahaha what makes you think we'd be heros?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Logical 101
PowerCow Farm
#114 - 2013-12-29 00:01:26 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
ahaha what makes you think we'd be heros?

Who said the Justice League were heroes?

From what I can tell they mostly just sit around being skeptical of Batman.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#115 - 2013-12-29 00:10:55 UTC
Plug in Baby wrote:

B) CCP do listen and CSM have been advising them to handout ships and condone RMT, in which case you already know the jist of the minutes anyway.

Pretty much this until I see otherwise...BUT, knowing my reputation with CCP, they'd let me think this...

I'm rather impressed I didn't get perma banned by now...

...
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#116 - 2013-12-29 00:26:07 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Plug in Baby wrote:

B) CCP do listen and CSM have been advising them to handout ships and condone RMT, in which case you already know the jist of the minutes anyway.

Pretty much this until I see otherwise...BUT, knowing my reputation with CCP, they'd let me think this...

I'm rather impressed I didn't get perma banned by now...


You're far too important to be publically permabanned.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#117 - 2013-12-29 00:29:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Maybe the better idea for future minutes would be to just put the videos on you tube, you can always remove and censor the parts that are completely dull and not for the ears of commoners.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#118 - 2013-12-29 00:53:42 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Maybe the better idea for future minutes would be to just put the videos on you tube, you can always remove and censor the parts that are completely dull and not for the ears of commoners.


Oh hell no, you have to suffer the dull parts just like we do

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Ryann Padecain
Doomheim
#119 - 2013-12-29 17:23:27 UTC
Not many seem to agree with you any longer Malcanis.. its easy to see how ignorant and arrogant you are, and yes you will come back with some kind of 'smart' post about how your followers voted for you because you are like that right? IMO you're a disgust and your recent posts and on how the others react on those shows I am not alone in that opinion.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#120 - 2013-12-29 17:57:12 UTC
Still no minutes.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays