Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You can solo play in EVE just fine if you put your mind to it. But to enjoy solo play you really need to get out of high sec. There is so much EVE to explore and things to do.



If your mind is set that you already lost then of course it is not fun to PvP. You dont go PvP to lose ships, you go there to make other players lose their ships but knowing that there is chance that you lose yours first. Not everyone in low and null are PvP legends with 100 million skill points. There are plenty of newbies and carebears out there just like in high sec. There are many ways to PvP even, one of them is that you never even fire your guns. Be that elusive guy who gets what he wants (siphon units, explo sites, loot, salvage, ect) under enemy nose and never get caught.




Black holes exist, iv seen it and I have to say it is quite fun experience and nebulas that distrub or enhance ships exist aswell. There are lot more out there, you just need to go look.

Now, who am I to say how you should play your game but I can say from experience that solo playing is possible and there are a lot of ways how to solo play with one character and one account but do not limit your play to high sec, just dont.

Overall EVE is less friendly mmo for solo play than other mmos out there and even though some people believe that mmo stands for playing in group or as team, it usually means just a lot of players playing with you in fantasy/scifi world. I remember reading that over half of mmo populations were solo players but I cant state that as fact. What I can say for fact is that in EVE you really need to put your mind into it to create content for yourself, in other mmos it is usually already tailored for your in the world.

@ Shah Fluffers


Okay. Sounds reasonable. So the technology limits the possibilities.

I mean not creating All-In-One ships. That every ships has a scanner means not that they all have the same scanning capabilities. You could for example combine the scanning capability with the CPU and powergrid. And some could have specialized scanning phalanxes and others have only rudimentary phalanxes which you cannot upgrade in the same way without fully reconstruction of a new hull. So it still depends on the ship and not on the module. I mean not that there are no modules at all or no specialized ship types. But I think the module system feels a little bit like a MMORPG than SciFi and limites possibilities.
Of course should the ship type limit the possibilities and you should not make an assault out of an interceptor. But nobody would create so specialized ships with so limited possibilities. Look at modern navy ships. Most of them are specialized for one purpose but have also all other capabilities. With the new SoE ships CCP created multi-purpose ships.

For a survey I made a proposel how I would change the fitting system to feel more SciFi. Instead of a small number of module slots you see a schematic of the ship with the power core, main computer, targeting and sensor arry, engines, shield generator and so on. And you can change this parts by installing better ones. With higher skills you can not only buy better stuff you can also adjust the behavior of the devices inclduing the normal bonuses. As example: With high skills in engineering and shield systems you can change the shield resistences either more in one resistence type or a balanced resistence. Instead of limited slots you have only ship system ressources. As example: You fly with amor tanking but put in a high level power core and strong main computer. So you have ressources free for ECM. Another interesting possibility is redirection of power. You fit a high level power core and direct most of its engery to the engines to get higher top speed. Or to the shield to get more shield HP. The level of the devices limits the bonus. But with higher skills and high level equipment you can run the devices beyond their limits.

What I mean is it lacks a little bit on the technological complexity. In this way you have more possibilities to use what you have AND your skills. High engineering skills should not only mean that you now can buy Tech-2 stuff and have some more bonus. It should also give you the possibility to work directly with the ship systems. As example if I am jammed by someone and also have high engineering skills, I can redirect the power from shields and weapons direct into the warp core to get a bonus an resistence against jamming and so I can warp out. Would bring more tactics into the game. The devices and ships system would of course limit how far you can go.

I think the number of modules would not decrease so much. You could add more like some alien power conduits for a higher power flow through the systems or different types of armor.

The best think would be if you could see the what the people did with their ships like with the strategic cruisers.

Was has this to do with solo player? More possibilities and tactics to survive and more fun with flags ... I mean with ships. :D

The problem here, OP, is that EVE is fundamentally incompatible with the kinds of suggestions you're making. It is designed as an MMO, a game in which you interact with other players, and in such a game, balance is paramount. CCP cannot possibly make the game good for solo (at least not in the ways that you're suggesting) without seriously compromising the game for everyone else.

I'd look into games like Freelancer, or the X3 series (Which I have heard described as "single player EVE").

Sci-fi is a setting, not a genre. This is like saying "I like sci-fi games but I don't like real time strategy; Starcraft should have an FPS mode".

EVE is not the game you are looking for. Fortunately for you, there are some great single-player sci-fi exploration games on the market (some of which I listed in my prior post), but EVE will never be one of them.

My conclusion is the OP has never left 1.0 space and is unaware of the existence of wormholes.

Op, incursions were never ever meant for solo players. There's plenty of content in eve that you can solo and as for the star trek style nebulas etc, gas clouds at anomalies and missions sites normally reduce fps to 1 or 2 when you used to have 100+ so they are slowly being removed from the game plus they are unrealistic in anycase.

Please, CCP is not known for realism.

So what you're saying is, you read up on various parts of the game that might fill your need, assume the worst about them without ever trying them out, decide as a result that the game doesn't actually have any content for you, and your reaction is to go complain on the forums that they need to add more content just for you?

Your content already exists. Stop making assumptions without trying it. Who's to say, when they added that new content you're asking for, you wouldn't read the dev blog, make yet another incorrect assumption, the continue complaining.

Seriously, stop acting like a 2-year-old. You want interesting content? Go f*ing find some, it definitely exists out there in EVE. Find a wormhole and start exploring. Go play around in low and try to kill someone.

Yes, you'll lose ships. Yes, you'll get podded. That's the first lesson of EVE, you will lose your stuff. But you'll also make others lose their stuff. And that's where the fun comes in.

Honestly, if what you're looking for is a game where you can have fun and succeed without ever interacting with other players in a meaningful manner, EVE Online isn't the game for you. Try Evochron Mercs or similar, purely solo space-based 4X games (explore, expand, exploit, and exterminate). Solo sandbox games, where you can do whatever you want, but balanced around the concept of only have a single player instead of half a million of them.



I believe they have a name for that law. I don't remember what it is, but the concept is that nothing can be introduced to the game that helps solo players more than it helps fleets of players.

I solo Eve Online every day. It just takes a certain person is all.

Want a solo game experience?

Don't play a ******* MMO.