EVE New Citizens Q&A

So I asked you to send me details...

"Not getting killed" and "not being killed repeatedly to the point of RQing the game" are two different things. Of course my members die. I die. Everyone dies occasionally. The difference is that people can be guided to learn from their mistakes and, while new members may die to a silly mistake, they don't need to die twice to the same mistake.


I know that EVE keeps growing because it is objective fact. The number of concurrent accounts is known (or at least, announced at certain milestones) and the average # of accounts connected to Tranquility can and is tracked. When I started in 2007 we didn't have anywhere close to 40K people connected to TQ, ever.

THE EVE BROTHERHOOD declared war on A fistfull of dollars on 12.13.2013

The current war report has a staggering 1,150,192,825 ISK destroyed by the aggressor, with no losses.

Kills include:

Coveter (& Pod)
Navy Raven
Catalyst
Venture (& Pod)
Covetor
Ibis (& Pod)
Venture

http://zkillboard.com/corporation/98273322
http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_external_id=98273322

Aggressor corp must not be posting them to killboards, because the kills aren't there. You can see the losses ingame though. Nasty stuff.

The whole point of all your replies arent to help, it is also not to be informative, It is to keep me replying so you can say hey look lets get him.. Well guys what are you waiting for, my corp is full of Dangerous new people, impress us all and turn on the blender

Ahh, I understand now. My mistake.

I'll let you do your thing.

You're talking about a specific war, of which you're only (and have only ever been) engaged in one. It's not hard to figure out who you're talking about, whether or not you name names.

EDIT: It's worth noting that everything about your current war can be looked up both ingame and out-of-game. Public records are pretty comprehensive, so there really isn't any privacy here about it.

Thankyou for taking your time to write this, and I respect that you are writing something different from the general thread trend. I also agree with what you are writing, and I also think I can run a corp, I have currently been working really really hard to get it going and again i'm glad for your reply sir.

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Also to the others who have posted, I wont reply to more since all from now on will be to get me worked up or something, to write something, personal. I refuse to write stuff like that since it is degrading for any person. I'm not a hateful bad person and, I like to help and I like to learn. It is very frustrating when people leave your corp and the game, and all you got left are trying to help the remaining and feeling responsible. not everyone can understand that I guess, and are now going to put the grinder on me and my members. Also, telling me its my fault without blinking is not only wrong it is written out of being bored, worked up and frustrated or whatever reason.

sigh. You really need to cut the attitude.

Alright, as CEO you need to make policy decisions and educate your members. One of those policies is whether to be prey or predators. Because in every PVP encounter you are one or the other. Another policy is reim. Another policy is modified warfare behavior.

If you decide to be prey. Such as being pure pve then you will STILL have to learn some basic PVP tactics and skills. . Because if you do not, all you can do otherwise is shed tears. Many unused features become critical in pvp. Specifically:
Preparing the overview for pvp
d-scan
pre-aligning
safespots
insta-warps
tactical bookmarks
placement of the local window
fitting for flight
flying in groups for mutual support
leadership skills
Instant recognition of ships by name and cognizance of the most likely uses and fittings
Watch list-it is not just for friends
War Mechanics
How to evade gate camps.
Where to and not to warp in system when hostiles are present
How to deal with spys
How to make isk during war
How to move goods during war
POS mechanics
Psychological warfare in eve
Killboards and Killmails. Specifically looking up your enemy's losses and figuring out counter fits.
How to learn from and adapt to enemy tactics
Leadership and moral. Calling your attackers cowards doesn't improve your corp's moral. It makes the leadership seem impotent. You never want to commiserate with corp members. Your goal is to make them feel empowered.
For starters....If you want to be offensive then you need to really get on your game.

One thing I always looked for in my Corps is whether they had a reim policy. It didn't necessarily have to be for the ships I fly, but the existence of a reim policy, at all, says a lot about the corporation. Newbies need support, a reim policy provides a form of support that reduces the hardship from dying. Actually, requiring members to insure ships flown in war, and having a reim policy together can make dying somewhat profitable.

During warfare it is common to require no mining or mission running in high-sec. When I was in 101st the CEO would declare "weapons free" on any corp member afk mining or missioning in high-sec. Then any corp members in the area would converge and blow up the corp member....and you thought corps were hard on other corps...

Simple.

Close your corp, because you are NOT qualified to run a corp if you can't teach other new players, if you can't take advice and above all if you can only whine about a perfectly working-as-intended game mechanic.

Close the corp and join a proper corp who know what they are doing, this count even more for your members.
I feel sorry for those who joined you.

Ruger, I think you may have missed just how helpful a lot of the posters were trying to be. The EVE community us an acquired taste. We've gotten the way we are because New Eden is a hard cold place. Even though it might not have been the answer you were looking for it was just as hard, cold & honest as your problem is.

The reality is that there are entire corps devoted to declaring war against soft targets. Though some of them do it because they enjoy the easy kills most are professionals. They are after lot and ransom. It's not easy finding creative ways to earn ISK. This is one of them.

Another reality of the game and community is that there are very few corps at any given time who are willing to assist the new bros in their wars. It is expensive, plain and simple. If you go search the C&P forum you will find a thread detailing the lastest failscade of a white knight alliance. They pop up from time to time and disappear quickly.

Leading a corp in EVE is not like other games. But then you've already heard that. If you want to hold your corp there is really only a few options. Keeping in mind of course that you will always lose members to various reasons anyway.

1. Make friends: having an alliance to back you is a big help. It can also be expensive (depending on the alliance) but the cost should be attainable for a 40 man corp with a high income. It doesn't need to be official though. Just being friendly with the right people will go a long way.

2. Move: low sec isn't as bad as most people seem to think. From the looks of it your would be dispatchers wouldn't step foot out here. W-space is another common option for avoiding wars but I wouldn't suggest it for your crew. There are however more than one newby wormhole corp.

3. ?

4. Profit

Obligatory "welcome to EVE" & good luck man.

One more note. You might not yet know why it is so important to respond very respectfully to Cannibal Kane's offer of mailing him the details but you really should. He will either help you for fun... or hunt you for fun... choice is yours.

Edit: one more, one more note: some of the wall of resistance that you're running up against in this thread has to do with the fact that EVE is a single server game. We can't escape our reputations in EVE. For instance Cannibal Kane has a reputation for making loudmouth CEO's rage quit. Some of the other posters here have simply been upholding their rep's as hard asses. You are developing a rep of your own right now.