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dominix / navy dominix build
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Ideafix Ergel
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-12-25 18:08:39 UTC
Hi there everyone,
i kinda need some advice on what should i go for domi or navy domi? how much better navy version is for lvl 4s and then if i plan on going incursion someday?
and then if you could also post cheap or cheap'ish fits for those? (for mission grinding and tanky because im still new to this game and dont want to lose even more ships.. :p ) (later maybe ill upgrade it to better fits ive seen on this forum and in loadouts)
i got some shield research as i started caldari, but now decided to switch for galente
thx in advance!
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#2 - 2013-12-25 19:56:33 UTC
People seem to prefer the nornal dominix because of it's range bonus, which helps them make stupidly long range gank fits. Drone boats aren't recommended for incursions because of how quickly npcs swap to shooting at drones, a navy megathron is much better suited for incursions.

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george harries
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-12-25 20:05:05 UTC
When you say you're still new to the game and don't want to lose any more ships it would make me wonder whether you are ready to move on to Lvl 4's. To give you an idea if you are not sufficiently skilled you'll need to jump out regularly to avoid losing your ship - when that happens you'd actually make more isk doing LVL 3's as you could do them quicker. Would be worthwhile getting your support and various other skills at least to 4 before tackling lvl 4's imho. The other option would be to do some lvl 4's with a corp mate, this will give you an idea of what to expect whilst building your skills and would lessen the chance of losing more ships......maybe food for thought.

I've never flown a Dominix or would throw a fit at you....may be worth searching the forum or possibly even Battleclinic, then set your skills so you can fly it reasonably well....being able to just get into the ship is asking for a ship loss, it's a bit like trying out PvP for the first time in a pirate BS, you think you've got a great ship but without the skills and knowledge a half decent cruiser pilot will have a nice kill mail with little effort.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#4 - 2013-12-26 15:38:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
They are different ships and you should never try to just copy a fit from one onto the other. The dominix is more of a sentry drone sniper, while the navy domi usually wants to be a bit closer and also use its highslots for railgun DPS. The Navy Domi tanks more, but it also requires more modules to get the same effectiveness from its drones. For that reason its reasonable to make the generalization that if you are not trying to do significant work with your guns (which require fittings, cap, modules to improve their effectiveness), then you should just use the regular domi. Of course, there are times when you want the extra tank of the navy domi even when you don't care about the gun bonus, and also don't mind losing the drone bonus either.

Both ships can be shield or armor tanked, although the navy version is more shield-y than the regular one.

Navy - high sp required to use effectively, can often be less effective than the Domi depending on the role. Higher theoretical tank and dps.
Dominix - cheap, effective, excellent for low and high sp player.

Again, the ships are not interchangeable.

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Ideafix Ergel
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-12-30 18:55:16 UTC
Can someone post shield tanked version of dominix?
And is it vialable at all for lvl 4s, cos I can see lots of armor tanked versions of it.
Kairavi Mrithyakara
#6 - 2013-12-31 09:47:27 UTC
+1 to Batelle's post. Navy Dom is often less comfortable and more skill intensive to use. The regular Dom as a sentry sniper does enough DPS from afar to warrant the considerably smaller tank.

As per shield tanking a Dom, I'd go for the Rattlesnake instead. It gets bonuses to shield resists, and can mount a massive shield tank, active or passive. Given its slot layout, you could conceivably active or passive shield tank a Navy Dom, but a Rattlesnake would be better suited for either type.


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#7 - 2013-12-31 13:47:22 UTC
Ideafix Ergel wrote:
Can someone post shield tanked version of dominix?
And is it vialable at all for lvl 4s, cos I can see lots of armor tanked versions of it.


The reason you don't see shield tanked domi is because they're not really meant to be shield tanked. Use your low slots for your armor tank. Doesn't take long to get armor tanking skills. Anyway, best to fit a Micro Jump Drive if you are using sentries with a Dominix. That alone makes it so you don't need a huge tank on it. That's my opinion anyway.
Anatoly Vsevolod
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-01-02 10:55:57 UTC
Man just get a Drake !
Ideafix Ergel
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-01-02 12:08:13 UTC
I had drake, its not really good for lvl 4s tbh
Anyway, I went other way - for maelstrom Into machariel someday
Ginger Barbarella
#10 - 2014-01-02 15:31:47 UTC
Regular domi has the tracking bonus, but Navy Domi is a harder nut to crack..

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Josef Djugashvilis
#11 - 2014-01-02 16:20:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Regular domi has the tracking bonus, but Navy Domi is a harder nut to crack..


True, but a regular Domi with a mjd does not have to worry about incoming damage.

I used a Navy Domi for lvl 4 missions for quite some time, but the regular Domi + mjd +sentry drones is better, even if only because I never need to buy any ammo.

Shame really as I like the camo on the Navy Domi.

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Ginger Barbarella
#12 - 2014-01-02 17:15:12 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Regular domi has the tracking bonus, but Navy Domi is a harder nut to crack..


True, but a regular Domi with a mjd does not have to worry about incoming damage.

I used a Navy Domi for lvl 4 missions for quite some time, bu the regular Domi + mjd +sentry drones is better, even if only because I never need to buy any ammo.

Shame really as I like the camo on the Navy Domi.


I agree with your assessment of regular Domi over Navy Domi... I almost actually bought one earlier this week, then came to my senses and climbed back into my Ishtar. P It's amazing what that tracking bonus for drones does...

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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-01-03 02:34:40 UTC
Ideafix Ergel wrote:
I had drake, its not really good for lvl 4s tbh
Anyway, I went other way - for maelstrom Into machariel someday


Maelstrom is a good choice! I only advise make sure you have good core/ shield skills if you plan to solo missions. In a fleet you can always have fleet mates bail you out of a bad spot. T2 light drones with Drone Interfacing 4 is very important in case you get scrammed.