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Looking for close range MWD frig fits
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Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-12-24 07:12:18 UTC
I'm getting back into Faction Warfare and I'd like to fly a close range frigate this time. But last time I tried brawler fits, I found that I had no way to catch a kiter with just an afterburner. So I'm looking for close range fits that have MWDs. Either as their only prop mod, or on a dual-prop fit.

Does anyone know any such fits ?

Preferably T1 or navy faction frigates.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#2 - 2013-12-24 09:37:47 UTC
MWD-Brawler frigates should have good projection out to scram range, to prevent from being scram kited by AB fits, here are some of my favourites:

[Merlin, PvP Rails]

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Damage Control II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium Shield Extender II

125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I



[Breacher, MWD]

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket

Small Bay Loading Accelerator I
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


Warrior II x2



[Kestrel, PvP MWD]

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


[Tormentor, PvP MWD]

400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Gatling Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I


Warrior II x2

These are just some that I fly, personally I like the Breacher best, people are very willing to engage it, it's fast and has a surprisingly good tank. Other ships that are good for these kinds of fits: Incursus, Tristan, Comet, Hookbill. The Tristan is especially mean for a T1 frigate and the Comet and Hookbill if you want something with better performance. Obviously the king of these fits is the Daredevil but that comes at a price.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#3 - 2013-12-24 20:43:08 UTC
Obligatory "Derpton" fit...

[Atron, Derptron]

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Damage Control II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
[empty rig slot]

How did you Veterans start?
Hesod Adee
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-12-24 21:24:02 UTC
Thanks. I expect that I'll enjoy at least one of these.
Fenris Orion
Strata Victoria
Of Essence
#5 - 2013-12-24 22:22:07 UTC
I've always thought the "Derptron" refered to a two-gun, MSE fit, so I think the above is more a common dual-prop Atron fit.

On dual-prop fits: check me on this, but the following is what I've deducted by severe trial and error.

If: AB-speed - 60% web > target's base speed.
Then: scram/ab/mwd > web/mwd.
Avoid web/scram/ab or anything with dual webs. Of course, there's no way to know how the other guy is fit, so you always have that dice to roll.

So, I like my Atron fit, as well, arguably better than the above.

[Atron-XL]

3x Small Ion Blaster II's

Warp Scrambler II
Small Afterburner II
Limited MWD

Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II (for better Hp) -or- Nanofiber Structure II (better speed)
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Ancillary Current Router
Hybrid Burst Aerator
(50 calibration left for whatever you want to fit, but remember armor-rigs cost you 10% speed)


Very few frigs are faster, and there's always the chance to slingshot them or alternate overheat in hopes they burn out first. Go straight for a 500m orbit with AB and overheat all the things. The tracking bonus means Void works fine, no need for CNAM. Once in orbit, all but the smallest railguns, autocannons, and lasers have a very hard time tracking you (that Merlin above, for example). And, most of your kitey light-missile frigs will often be plenty fragile.
Thorne Zyman
Golden Goose Research
#6 - 2013-12-25 23:19:33 UTC
Slasher looks good. Don't have the exact fit to hand but something like:

3x 150mm T2
Neut

MWD
Medium Shield Extender
Scram
Web

Gyro
MAPC

Projectile burst
2x projectile ambit

With a meta 2-4 fit (T2 guns) it costs less than 4m.

Enough range to do reasonable damage at scram range. The neut is cap stable with good skills.
God's Apples
Wilderness
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#7 - 2013-12-26 00:06:11 UTC
[Atron, MWD Blaster]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Ambit Extension I

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
Fenris Orion
Strata Victoria
Of Essence
#8 - 2013-12-26 20:44:59 UTC
Hesod dee wrote:


Preferably T1 or navy faction frigates.



Decided to try out a dual-prop Navy Comet last night, and really liked the results. Most fits for the Comet like to focus on rails and depend more on drone damage, but I prefer the face-melting blaster route.

[Federation Navy Comet: Dual-prop Blaster]

2x Small Neutron Blaster II's

Warp Scrambler II
10mn Afterburner II
Limited 10mn Microwarp Drive

Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plates II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Ancillary Current Router
Hybrid Burst Aerator
Anti-Explosive Pump


Right off the bat I caught a Stiletto and easily proved the dual-prop formula above. Dude melted before he could get through my shields. Also melted a tanky Merlin that was web/scram/ab fit, so this is fast enough to make up for the lack of a web. Wanted to squeeze a Nos into this with Ions, but didn't quite have the grid for it. Advanced Weapon Upgrades V will fix that.

In-game stats with skills mostly in the IV's and V's:

Void: 203dps / 233 overheated
Hobgoblin II's: 40dps
In-game ehp: 5,100+
Resistances: 67/58/58/58
1000m/s AB, 3000m/s MWD, before overheat.
Base SAAR reps