Ships & Modules

1:
Reduce seige mode time to 5 min/half the consumption amount

2:
remove the scan resolution penalty from the siege mod

3:
add new role bonuses to dreads such as:
ability to use capital nos/nuets (since the mod is soo big its sig radius based on if it works or not... so is useless against non cap ships)
ability to use capital capacitor injector (uses 8000's)
add bonuses to the mods in siege mode

4: make it so RR works on dreads in siege mode but are still invul to ewar mods in seige mode (edit this is up for debate whether or not ewar should be able to be used against a dread in siege mode if its receiving rr too... personally i am ok either way)

5:
add one extra high slot to all dreads so they can fit a nuet or nos.

6:
Remove the -50% to tracking and -60% to explosion velocity and replace it with a -30% to tracking and -40% to explosion velocity built into the guns (this is in effect a titan nerf)

ok so this would be my new moros fittings:

rigs:
3 trimarks

lows:
3 faction mag stab
2 true sansha endergy adaptives
1 ex harner II
dcu II

mids without ewar:--------------------------------------------------mids with ewar:
capital cap injector-------------------------------------------------- capital cap injecot
faction sensor booster (locking script)-------------------------magnometric eccm II
faction sensor booster (locking script)-------------------------faction sensor booster (locking script)
faction tracking comp (optimal range script) -----------------faction tracking comp (optimal range script)
faction tracking comp (optimal range script) -----------------faction tracking comp (optimal range script)

highs:
3 ion using faction antimater
1 capital nuet
1 seige mod

drones:
5 sentry II

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Your idea is well thought out and explained and you have not taken undeserved liberties in predetermining the characteristics of a ship class that is not unbalanced in it's very nature and you clearly are the person to decide these critical attributes to make sure that it remains balanced, instead of the people who have been running this game for the past eight years now and yet to have failed to add anything this brilliant despite a good amount of them who are employed and trained in this very sort of thing.

Opposite day!

hmm..., i don't know, seems a tad overpowered, especially the Hrym, with the 8 weapons slots. And maybe you could diversify the bonuses a little. Very very very well thought out though, would love to see these obscenities implimented

true enough but one would want the infinity point on the siege mod and one nuet on so that leave 5 slots for guns/missles

personally i would go 2 missles 3 guns 1 nuet 1 infinity point 1 siege mod

plus dont forget these things are pretty weak when looking at sensor strength (see marauder) so without remote ECCM these things will get ecm'd....

Anyway we need some new subcap ship not owerpowered .

what what i have heard via the grape vine...

sc are going to get a hp reduction dedicated fighter bay and drone bay so they will have to choose either fighters or fighter bombers...

dreads are going to get a slight hp boost and damage boost plus siege is going to be reduced to 5 min...

imo there is still room and the need for a capital ewar tackle ship...

Personally i think that is an excellent option (been pushing for that myself), i think there is plenty of room for both

I'm sorry but this is just wrong, there is clearly no room for even 1 extra capital ship at the moment as current dreads are so niche they are hardly used. Tier 1 dreads need fixing, or capital combat needs changing such that the tier 1 dreads have a clear role. Only once the current ships are balanced will it be worth thinking about new capitals.

I do agree that new capitals should be tier 2 or just variations, not Tech 2 as that is getting silly we don't even have or need T2 capital modules. Also you seem to be suggesting that the tier 2 dreads would be simply better than tier 1, that is not how Eve works (or should work at least) they need a different role not just making current dreads even more useless.

What this game needs is a rebalance of the current capital ships so they all have a role to play.


Also OP shows a clear lack of understanding of capital combat, Siege mode ships are invulnerable to EWAR so ECCM is a non-issue and there would be no way these ships would survive a 5min cycle without RR unless you gave them a somewhat overpowered tank. This is a large part of why dreads in their current state are underused.

We do not need capital tackle mods or capital ships with infi points. We don't need eve becoming capitals online, these roles are typically best filled by smaller ships and it makes no sense to obsolete those ships just so we can have a capital tackler.

And finally this is in the wrong forum section

kinda sad i did not know that dreads were imune to ewar in siege mode...

i have had one for two years and used it on a number of occasions but allways assumed the no rr thing did not mean no ewar also...

which then makes the whole counter to juggers stupid...

so...

i think headerman war right in the suggestion that the siege mode should be changed to not only allow incomming rr but also allow ewar to be used (so that juggers are not soo damn op)


and i dont think juggers would make hics obsolete... there are still many pros to use a hic over one of these... can jump via star gates... can use a regular buble... the jugger can only use the infinity point in siege... the hic does not need to siege can red the mod any time it wants...

plus the game is already capitals online... ironically what i want to do is introduce juggers to counter all the caps by making it great at killing caps but extreamly vulnerable to sub cap fleets...