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General Jack Cosmo
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1501 - 2013-12-17 20:00:40 UTC
I still think i am right about adding one high for a cloak or prob launcher for the frigate but

for the Nestor at least give it the same bonus as the BO ships!!!!

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Joker Dronemaster
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1502 - 2013-12-17 22:06:09 UTC
Xequecal wrote:
Guys, it's supposed to be a w-space useable battleship, and it's actually pretty good in that respect without being overpowered.

The problem is that because it's on SoE LP, it's just too expensive. If it were in literally any other LP store, it would be fine.


And therein lies the problem.

Its not a bad ship, in fact its actually very good. Its just a bad SoE ship. If this ship BPC were a drop from the rouge drone 10/10 (It actually exists, or so I hear) or anywhere else it would be a great ship. But at it stands its too cost prohibitive for what it brings to the table and without a jump drive it breaks the theme of the sisters ships.
Savira Terrant
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1503 - 2013-12-17 22:20:48 UTC
Joker Dronemaster wrote:
And therein lies the problem.

Its not a bad ship, in fact its actually very good. Its just a bad SoE ship. If this ship BPC were a drop from the rouge drone 10/10 (It actually exists, or so I hear) or anywhere else it would be a great ship. But at it stands its too cost prohibitive for what it brings to the table and without a jump drive it breaks the theme of the sisters ships.


I'd like to hear your opinion and reasons about the alternative: making LP shops stronger and stop the blueprint drops of all the pirate ships instead.

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XvXTeacherVxV
Be Nice Inc.
Prismatic Legion
#1504 - 2013-12-17 23:20:35 UTC
Ya know what, I think we're going about this all wrong. Everybody is trying to make this ship more coherent and useful. I think we should all just brainstorm role bonuses that we could keep adding to the hull without ever making it OP. Let's make it the hull of a 100 nearly useless bonuses. The less useful the better.

Like....

-50% cap usage of salvagers.
+50% target painter falloff.
+10 to drone sensor strength.
25% increase to firework rate of fire.
Can Fit Snowball De-melter.
Can you see the rapier?: http://imgur.com/aFelCpv,GH6lqDE
Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic
Central Omni Galactic Group
#1505 - 2013-12-17 23:35:52 UTC
1.5bil estimates I've heard thrown around for 'market' costs of the Nestor, if anyone has the LP to get them in the first place :/
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1506 - 2013-12-18 02:24:11 UTC
Momiji Sakora wrote:
1.5bil estimates I've heard thrown around for 'market' costs of the Nestor, if anyone has the LP to get them in the first place :/

Well, some of us are taking advantage of it Cool

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Joker Dronemaster
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1507 - 2013-12-18 02:41:11 UTC
XvXTeacherVxV wrote:
Ya know what, I think we're going about this all wrong. Everybody is trying to make this ship more coherent and useful. I think we should all just brainstorm role bonuses that we could keep adding to the hull without ever making it OP. Let's make it the hull of a 100 nearly useless bonuses. The less useful the better.

Like....

-50% cap usage of salvagers.
+50% target painter falloff.
+10 to drone sensor strength.
25% increase to firework rate of fire.
Can Fit Snowball De-melter.



Brilliant!

+25% to cycle time of stasis webs
Zvaarian the Red
Evil Leprechaun Brigade
#1508 - 2013-12-18 05:13:44 UTC
XvXTeacherVxV wrote:
Ya know what, I think we're going about this all wrong. Everybody is trying to make this ship more coherent and useful. I think we should all just brainstorm role bonuses that we could keep adding to the hull without ever making it OP. Let's make it the hull of a 100 nearly useless bonuses. The less useful the better.

Like....

-50% cap usage of salvagers.
+50% target painter falloff.
+10 to drone sensor strength.
25% increase to firework rate of fire.
Can Fit Snowball De-melter.


10000 m3 exotic dancer hold
Disciple Cax
Ethereal Morality
The Initiative.
#1509 - 2013-12-18 07:49:57 UTC
Can fit clone vat bay

(Does not have enough power grid to fit clone vat bay)
supernova ranger
The End of Eternity
#1510 - 2013-12-18 09:30:08 UTC
with the new Amarr drone ships and now 3 SOE drone ships... Could we please get around to fixing the drone interface and AI.

They still glitch allot and are still pretty basic with only the commands to engage and return.
Savira Terrant
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1511 - 2013-12-18 11:05:01 UTC
XvXTeacherVxV wrote:
Ya know what, I think we're going about this all wrong. Everybody is trying to make this ship more coherent and useful. I think we should all just brainstorm role bonuses that we could keep adding to the hull without ever making it OP. Let's make it the hull of a 100 nearly useless bonuses. The less useful the better.

Like....

-50% cap usage of salvagers.
+50% target painter falloff.
+10 to drone sensor strength.
25% increase to firework rate of fire.
Can Fit Snowball De-melter.



Can we please stop trolling this F&I thread right here and now?!

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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#1512 - 2013-12-18 13:06:29 UTC  |  Edited by: erg cz
How about ability to use bastion mode? And bigger cargo hold. Even Gnosis has bigger cargo hold, than this one. Lets have a faction marauder ship...

Now lets take a look at this:
Stratios: 5-5-5 layout plus rather big cargo hold for a cruiser - 550 m3, scanning bonuses
Gnosis: 6-6-6 layout plus again - biggest cargo hold among non-marauder ships, scanning bonuses again (though not so good as Stratios)
Nestor : 7-6-6 layout, cargo hold like usual BS (Armageddon navy issue has ame, Meathron - just a bit smaller), scanning bonuses even better, then Stratios.

Do not you see that this breaks the line?!

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Sim Cognito
Obani Gemini Corporation
#1513 - 2013-12-18 14:54:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Sim Cognito
Naomi Anthar wrote:
Basically it means rattler will get some DECENT BUFF - since i cannot see why you would take rattle over this one.
Because it shield tanks ? Most of the time its good to be armor tanked at BS level.


And stop with those stupid ideas of another role bonus.

Ship already got Virus Strenght , Scan bonus (huge one) , Energry turrets optimal range, rep amount bonus

Yes that is total 4 role bonuses compared to standard 1 bonus for navy/pirate ships.

And you want what ? 5th bonus aswell ? Just ... just stop.

It's already rattler V2 ... no need to **** on poor Guristas BS anymore.


What are you on about? Active tanked rattlesnake completely overpowers the armor tanked Nestor, take a look at EFT.



Also, what happened to the exploration? No one seems to be paying any attention to the supposed theme of this line of ships.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1514 - 2013-12-18 15:13:25 UTC
Sim Cognito wrote:




Also, what happened to the exploration? No one seems to be paying any attention to the supposed theme of this line of ships.



Because when you enter a relic site with cans that are often 40-50km apart a battlleship is NOT what I'm think I was to do that with.

........seriously scanning battleship is just silly. Even if you are combat scanning with it do you REALLY what eveyone in your gang warping at 2AU?
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#1515 - 2013-12-18 15:51:23 UTC
Momiji Sakora wrote:
1.5bil estimates I've heard thrown around for 'market' costs of the Nestor, if anyone has the LP to get them in the first place :/


closer to 2bill

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Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1516 - 2013-12-18 16:01:25 UTC
Savira Terrant wrote:
XvXTeacherVxV wrote:
Ya know what, I think we're going about this all wrong. Everybody is trying to make this ship more coherent and useful. I think we should all just brainstorm role bonuses that we could keep adding to the hull without ever making it OP. Let's make it the hull of a 100 nearly useless bonuses. The less useful the better.

Like....

-50% cap usage of salvagers.
+50% target painter falloff.
+10 to drone sensor strength.
25% increase to firework rate of fire.
Can Fit Snowball De-melter.



Can we please stop trolling this F&I thread right here and now?!

That is assuming that this tread was not a troll from the start.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
XvXTeacherVxV
Be Nice Inc.
Prismatic Legion
#1517 - 2013-12-18 18:32:29 UTC
Savira Terrant wrote:
XvXTeacherVxV wrote:
Ya know what, I think we're going about this all wrong. Everybody is trying to make this ship more coherent and useful. I think we should all just brainstorm role bonuses that we could keep adding to the hull without ever making it OP. Let's make it the hull of a 100 nearly useless bonuses. The less useful the better.

Like....

-50% cap usage of salvagers.
+50% target painter falloff.
+10 to drone sensor strength.
25% increase to firework rate of fire.
Can Fit Snowball De-melter.



Can we please stop trolling this F&I thread right here and now?!


Or, you could request a troll screen role bonus for your Nestor.

-100% trolling comments in local when you get ganked. (At least until it explodes anyway).
Can you see the rapier?: http://imgur.com/aFelCpv,GH6lqDE
To mare
Advanced Technology
#1518 - 2013-12-18 19:50:23 UTC
Savira Terrant wrote:
XvXTeacherVxV wrote:
Ya know what, I think we're going about this all wrong. Everybody is trying to make this ship more coherent and useful. I think we should all just brainstorm role bonuses that we could keep adding to the hull without ever making it OP. Let's make it the hull of a 100 nearly useless bonuses. The less useful the better.

Like....

-50% cap usage of salvagers.
+50% target painter falloff.
+10 to drone sensor strength.
25% increase to firework rate of fire.
Can Fit Snowball De-melter.



Can we please stop trolling this F&I thread right here and now?!


CCP dont care about feedback anymore so we can at least have some fun trolling
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1519 - 2013-12-18 21:09:43 UTC
I was expecting more of it.... Give it a triage mode!!!!

Please read these!

New POS system New SOV system
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1520 - 2013-12-18 21:54:53 UTC
I thought they were going somewhere with the rescue shuttle… Like if you died, you appeared in the shuttle instead of a pod. What do we get instead? Another drone and logistics ship… (yawn).

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