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CFC Declares War on N3.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#81 - 2013-12-15 18:10:53 UTC
Miasmos wrote:
Every internet spaceships war is fought on three theatres:
• Morale and population metagame #1
• Economy and logistics #2
• Doctrines and skill level #3

Failure in any of these results in cascade of others, and when morale fails it takes a week for any entity to fold.

How will the slowcats be defeated? By making them show up less for fights. The Naglfar picture is only painted as a threatening scenario for that slowcat blob pilots, the Nag doctrine will probably never see the daylight because one day in the near future the slowcats will undock without the critical numbers to hold the spider up with good enough response. Then the morale spine cracks and N3 folds in a week.

Alternatively, the slowcats turn up with 300 every single undock and start to gain ground. No dread doctrine can reach the range of bouncer/warden with enough alpha. 140km - lol. My money is on the turn up f up though.

don't worry, they are elite pvp, they will survive

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David Kir
Hotbirds
#82 - 2013-12-15 18:10:57 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
I mean, Goons and Russians have so much respect and love for each other and do not harbour any ill feelings at all towards each other

We've been on good terms with the Russians since back in 2006 so I'm not sure really what you're getting at.


I have no business discussing this, but I just figured out I'd link you this stuff.

http://www.eveinfo.net/wiki/inde~840.htm
http://www.eveinfo.net/wiki/inde~839.htm

Look at the "Relations".

It's post-2006, mind you.
Try avoiding false statements.

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
Rekon X
Doomheim
#83 - 2013-12-15 18:12:57 UTC
Miasmos wrote:
Every internet spaceships war is fought on three theatres:
• Morale and population metagame #1
• Economy and logistics #2
• Doctrines and skill level #3

Failure in any of these results in cascade of others, and when morale fails it takes a week for any entity to fold.

How will the slowcats be defeated? By making them show up less for fights. The Naglfar picture is only painted as a threatening scenario for that slowcat blob pilots, the Nag doctrine will probably never see the daylight because one day in the near future the slowcats will undock without the critical numbers to hold the spider up with good enough response. Then the morale spine cracks and N3 folds in a week.

Alternatively, the slowcats turn up with 300 every single undock and start to gain ground. No dread doctrine can reach the range of bouncer/warden with enough alpha. 140km - lol. My money is on the turn up f up though.


More like goon pets are negotiating CFC space with N3 and PL right now. They will fold in on da goonz 'if' they start to war.

Definition of goon - a stupid person Those who can do, those who can't spew
WarFireV
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#84 - 2013-12-15 18:15:35 UTC
You guys are making my Nyx all hot and bothered.
David Kir
Hotbirds
#85 - 2013-12-15 18:24:18 UTC
WarFireV wrote:
You guys are making my Nyx all hot and bothered.


Question: could you explain to a random subcap only pilot why do some of you supercap dudes use Hels?

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2013-12-15 18:25:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Miasmos
Nvm
WarFireV
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2013-12-15 18:28:21 UTC  |  Edited by: WarFireV
David Kir wrote:
WarFireV wrote:
You guys are making my Nyx all hot and bothered.


Question: could you explain to a random subcap only pilot why do some of you supercap dudes use Hels?


They look better than Aeons and Wyverns.

Edit: Just to add more basiclly this is how the chart goes

Nyx: Master Race Super Carrier

Aeon: Max Coward Super Carrier

Hel: Max Baller Super Carrier

Wyvern: Hippster Super Carrier
Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
#88 - 2013-12-15 18:36:35 UTC
26 Nag BPOs? Straight


I hope that's some kind of typo or bad joke....

Lol
Rekon X
Doomheim
#89 - 2013-12-15 18:37:22 UTC
What happened to the goonz propaganda machine? It was quite entertaining.

Definition of goon - a stupid person Those who can do, those who can't spew
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2013-12-15 18:44:27 UTC
David Kir wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
David Kir wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

Riddle me this.

If we cant kill it with our numbers what chance does anyone else stand?


A rather good chance, as long as they use the right tool, unlike the CFC did until now.
That's a silly argument, numbers aren't always the deciding factor.


Well lets look at this.

They are immune to any subcap fleet and they have the largest supercap fleet.

Who else has the power to stop them?


a) They aren't immune to bombers, you won't break them but you'll stop them from dealing damage.

b) Not my issue.

That's not my point.

My point is that whining about a tactic that overcomes superior numbers is silly, and that is it.
All you have to do is come up with a superior tactic, which is what the "train dreads" post is for.

As for the supercap superiority: you're the attacking party.
Your industrial machine is intact, your carebears can do their thing freely.
Build your own, use alliance funds to buy pilots.
Problem solved.

Also, stop them doing...?



Aren't immune to bombers? Have you any idea how many sentry drones fit in the 80,000m3 drone bay on an archon? I'll tell you its 3,200. Likewise at 7 bombs at a time you have NO chance of doing any appreciable to an Archon.

Also, supers and super pilots don't grow on trees.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2013-12-15 18:47:26 UTC
David Kir wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
I mean, Goons and Russians have so much respect and love for each other and do not harbour any ill feelings at all towards each other

We've been on good terms with the Russians since back in 2006 so I'm not sure really what you're getting at.


I have no business discussing this, but I just figured out I'd link you this stuff.

http://www.eveinfo.net/wiki/inde~840.htm
http://www.eveinfo.net/wiki/inde~839.htm

Look at the "Relations".

It's post-2006, mind you.
Try avoiding false statements.



Funny why -A- was removing RA from scalding pass more PL/NC. and CFC showed up than RA......soooooo.

It was also the first time we ever saw slowcats fielded. That was two years ago.
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#92 - 2013-12-15 18:48:37 UTC
Sure am glad I joined faction warfare before the oncoming **** storm. Lol

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

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David Kir
Hotbirds
#93 - 2013-12-15 18:55:10 UTC
Onictus wrote:



Aren't immune to bombers? Have you any idea how many sentry drones fit in the 80,000m3 drone bay on an archon? I'll tell you its 3,200. Likewise at 7 bombs at a time you have NO chance of doing any appreciable to an Archon.

Also, supers and super pilots don't grow on trees.


Your goal isn't destroying ALL of their drones.
Your goal is destroying the deployed ones, or make the pilots recall them.
You're gonna mitigate quite a lot of damage this way.

Super pilots don't grow on trees?
So what?
You're free to build them up, aren't you?
The CFC has a fair share of 100000000+ SP pilots with full support skills.
Give them free supercap skillbooks, give them discounted supers.
Problem solved.

Again, CFC's fault for not using the right tools for the job, not N3/PL's fault for using a powerful fleet concept.

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
General Nusense
Doomheim
#94 - 2013-12-15 18:56:41 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Sure am glad I joined faction warfare before the oncoming **** storm. Lol


when you say "joined", we all know that it was the only other choice you had after losing all of your space.

To all the people crying about how mittens sotg is full of tears, lets not forget the tears shed by nulli when they lost their space to a blob.when ncdot lost their space to the blob. when test lost their space to the blob. they really should look up to solar who, didnt cry when they lost their space to the pl/ncdot/nulli/**** blob.


Made a signature so I am taken seriously on the forums, since thats the only thing they are good for.
David Kir
Hotbirds
#95 - 2013-12-15 18:57:55 UTC
Onictus wrote:

Funny why -A- was removing RA from scalding pass more PL/NC. and CFC showed up than RA......soooooo.


WUT?

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2013-12-15 19:00:38 UTC
David Kir wrote:
Onictus wrote:

Funny why -A- was removing RA from scalding pass more PL/NC. and CFC showed up than RA......soooooo.


WUT?


We you not at C-J6?

RA didn't show up to defend it, PL and NC. did....along with a fleet or so of CFC.
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#97 - 2013-12-15 19:02:09 UTC
General Nusense wrote:
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
Sure am glad I joined faction warfare before the oncoming **** storm. Lol


when you say "joined", we all know that it was the only other choice you had after losing all of your space.

To all the people crying about how mittens sotg is full of tears, lets not forget the tears shed by nulli when they lost their space to a blob.when ncdot lost their space to the blob. when test lost their space to the blob. they really should look up to solar who, didnt cry when they lost their space to the pl/ncdot/nulli/**** blob.




Actually I was in a WhySo pet alliance, I left a week ago for TEST.

To all those people crying about how N3 is full of tears, lets not forget that the goons are the only major alliance to lose their space because they forget to pay the bills. You know, grr goons and all that jazz.

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

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MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#98 - 2013-12-15 19:03:49 UTC
This is embarrassing [NSERT BIG FACEPALM HERE]

Send me isk im poor
David Kir
Hotbirds
#99 - 2013-12-15 19:06:25 UTC
Onictus wrote:
David Kir wrote:
Onictus wrote:

Funny why -A- was removing RA from scalding pass more PL/NC. and CFC showed up than RA......soooooo.


WUT?


We you not at C-J6?

RA didn't show up to defend it, PL and NC. did....along with a fleet or so of CFC.


Your post was (and still is) incomprehensible.
Now that you've (kind of) clarified that sequence of random words:

So what?
My point was that "we've been on good terms with the Russians since back in 2006..." is a false statement, and it is.
That's it.
Not sure what you're trying to say here.

Friends are like cows: if you eat them, they die.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#100 - 2013-12-15 19:16:18 UTC
IB4 Archon nerf...

Oh it'll happen in the next few weeks after a few more tears and well placed CFC members in a certain Corp...

...