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Some questions that need answered

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Hamnavoe Amatin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-12-11 22:51:47 UTC
Hello all, so I've been playing eve for nearly a week, and I've been doing security missions level one and Sisters Of EvE Epic Arch missions. Now I've managed to train my way up to VEXOR cruiser ship. I'm hoping to get to tech two weapons next week as it's a five day training for small hybrid turrets to reach level V.

My first question is, what sort of guns should I be looking to buy and what sort of ammo too, with my current training on my algos that I had managed to get just under 96/dps also had drones for them too, with my VEXOR I'm hoping to get more than a 100/dps

My second question is, what sort of armor repair and shield boosters should I be looking at getting too?

or if someone can simply give me a link would help a lot!

Many thanks Hamna
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-12-12 01:56:00 UTC
What the bonuses on Vexor?

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Irvam Nebail
Cor-Blimey
#3 - 2013-12-12 05:52:43 UTC
[Vexor, newbro pve]

4x 200mm Prototype Gauss Gun (Antimatter Charge M)

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array

Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Prototype Armor Thermic Hardener I
Drone Damage Amplifier I

2x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

6x Hammerhead I
7x Hobgoblin I
6x Warrior I

5000x Antimatter Charge M
5000x Lead Charge M
5000x Iron Charge M

Without knowing your skills this is what I'd suggest, it will work in level 1 missions and should do fine in level 2s. To get the most out of the Vexor you'll want to train up drone and turret support skills before going for T2 equipment. You should swap out hardeners according to the damage profile of the rats you're facing as well. You can swap out the modules for lower meta versions if you can't afford the ones I've suggested and if you're having trouble with fitting it all downgrade the guns to Dual 150s.

If you need any more help with it you can contact me in game pretty much whenever I'm on.
Hamnavoe Amatin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-12-12 10:33:06 UTC
Irvam Nebail wrote:
[Vexor, newbro pve]

4x 200mm Prototype Gauss Gun (Antimatter Charge M)

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array

Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Prototype Armor Thermic Hardener I
Drone Damage Amplifier I

2x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

6x Hammerhead I
7x Hobgoblin I
6x Warrior I

5000x Antimatter Charge M
5000x Lead Charge M
5000x Iron Charge M

Without knowing your skills this is what I'd suggest, it will work in level 1 missions and should do fine in level 2s. To get the most out of the Vexor you'll want to train up drone and turret support skills before going for T2 equipment. You should swap out hardeners according to the damage profile of the rats you're facing as well. You can swap out the modules for lower meta versions if you can't afford the ones I've suggested and if you're having trouble with fitting it all downgrade the guns to Dual 150s.

If you need any more help with it you can contact me in game pretty much whenever I'm on.



Many thanks for your reply :) Some members of my corp have been helping me with ISK to buy some parts but they want me to do the missions my self to get the cash witch is understandable I'm in a small corp and small Alliance but they have been helping me a lot.

Cheers :)
Dirk Massive
D.O.O.M.
#5 - 2013-12-12 10:36:21 UTC
Irvam Nebail wrote:
[Vexor, newbro pve]

4x 200mm Prototype Gauss Gun (Antimatter Charge M)

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array

Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Medium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Prototype Armor Thermic Hardener I
Drone Damage Amplifier I

2x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

6x Hammerhead I
7x Hobgoblin I
6x Warrior I

5000x Antimatter Charge M
5000x Lead Charge M
5000x Iron Charge M

Without knowing your skills this is what I'd suggest, it will work in level 1 missions and should do fine in level 2s. To get the most out of the Vexor you'll want to train up drone and turret support skills before going for T2 equipment. You should swap out hardeners according to the damage profile of the rats you're facing as well. You can swap out the modules for lower meta versions if you can't afford the ones I've suggested and if you're having trouble with fitting it all downgrade the guns to Dual 150s.

If you need any more help with it you can contact me in game pretty much whenever I'm on.



This guys response seems to be pretty spot on I'd say. You should be able to use most of these modules before too much more time training. And it should get you on your way to train the skills you'll be needing with the modules here you can't use right now.

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Celia Therone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-12-12 11:49:34 UTC
A destroyer will almost certainly be faster at clearing level 1 missions than a cruiser because you're just killing a few fragile frigates. The destroyer should align quicker, warp quicker, target quicker and probably kill quicker as well (drones tend to not do all that much dps as they spend most of their time flying between targets rather than shooting them.)

However level 1 missions are also pretty worthless in terms of reward.

Level 2 missions are mostly like more numerous level 1 missions so a ranged destroyer often works well there, however there is the odd mission that has you fighting cruisers and those vary from being problematic to borderline suicidal in a low skill destroyer, and that is where the cruiser comes in.

The Vexor posted above seems fine. I think it does the most damage to cruiser and above targets with a flight of 2 ogres, 2 hammerheads and 1 hobgoblin if you are up close and personal (ogres are really slow so you don't want to wait 20 seconds for them to get on top of a target and start shooting.) At that point it gets about 60% of its damage from the drones and a lot of that damage comes from the drone interfacing skill.
Dirk Massive
D.O.O.M.
#7 - 2013-12-12 13:00:11 UTC
He should be ok doing mission with that Vexor setup until doing level 3 missions where something else a bit more will be needed. Most of the level 3 missions aren't too bad. Every once in a while you will run into one that will test you a little bit. But those can be done with a Battleship if need be, if your skills aren't that great yet. BS's don't require too many skills to be able to fly somewhat decent. Decent enuf for level 3's at least.

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Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-12-12 14:30:15 UTC
Flying a BS in level 3 missions is a total waste. A BC will complete them faster due to the lack of BS sized targets.
Hamnavoe Amatin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-12-13 11:07:26 UTC
Thanks all for the advice, i'll post up my fit to the forums if there is a way. I'm trying these level two missions with a different fit and I've gone and lost my vexor lol, but bought another one I'm training my CPU Management and something els with my CPU. I've just got under 10k hp and over 111 dps ( Including my drones )
Gimme more Cynos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-12-13 14:54:45 UTC
Dirk Massive wrote:
He should be ok doing mission with that Vexor setup until doing level 3 missions where something else a bit more will be needed. Most of the level 3 missions aren't too bad. Every once in a while you will run into one that will test you a little bit. But those can be done with a Battleship if need be, if your skills aren't that great yet. BS's don't require too many skills to be able to fly somewhat decent. Decent enuf for level 3's at least.


Reminds me of the tripple CCC'ed raven which I've met in my early days. He was a miner and did lv 3's in it... lmao :)

No, just no. DON'T use a BS for Lv 3's.
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-12-13 15:42:25 UTC
Well well.

Vexor (1-2) to Gnosis (3) to Dominix, I would say. Or Gnosis (1-3) to Dominix (3-4). Pure drones.

The reasoning is, you can skip training cruiser and battlecruiser above III and just skip to MJD Dominix with BS V for L4. Gnosis grants full bonus off the bat, allowing you to work on t2 sentries while doing L3. Dominix is sweet in L3's and frankly you just run L3 as a stepping stone to L4.

If you cannot afford a Gnosis or a Dominix, play around in the Vexor and take it slow. In EVE, skillpoints are the main limitation
until a year or so. There is no need to rush.
Miasmos
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-12-13 15:46:11 UTC
Gimme more Cynos wrote:
Dirk Massive wrote:
He should be ok doing mission with that Vexor setup until doing level 3 missions where something else a bit more will be needed. Most of the level 3 missions aren't too bad. Every once in a while you will run into one that will test you a little bit. But those can be done with a Battleship if need be, if your skills aren't that great yet. BS's don't require too many skills to be able to fly somewhat decent. Decent enuf for level 3's at least.


Reminds me of the tripple CCC'ed raven which I've met in my early days. He was a miner and did lv 3's in it... lmao :)

No, just no. DON'T use a BS for Lv 3's.


This is an outdated advice IMHO. If you aim for PVE, the thing that holds you back are skillpoints. Skip the medium stuff and train a battleship, because you spend a day or two at most doing the L3's while you waste a month on medium ship proficiency. This is for PVE only.
Hamnavoe Amatin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-12-13 16:23:48 UTC
Hi guys, I've managed to get 98% on that list, needing to train my drones to level 5 to get the link thingy and something els too. got another hour till my CPU Management is done.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#14 - 2013-12-13 18:09:49 UTC
this thread title made me think of Gandalf.


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Hypernet Inc.
Umbrella Chemical Inc
#15 - 2013-12-13 19:24:51 UTC
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
Flying a BS in level 3 missions is a total waste. A BC will complete them faster due to the lack of BS sized targets.


This is a bit misdirecting. It is true for mainly amarr, the other factions much less so.

The domi does everything a myrm does in terms of missions, but better. The only downside it has is the raw mobility(warping can generally be sorted through the extra fitting), slowboating can be a pain - however most such missions are either better suited for even smaller ships than BCs or better not done at all.

Raven vs drake is somewhat the same thing. They used to be very similiar to eachother performancewise for young characters and the trainingtimes were very very close(Something like 8 hours difference for a level 3 capable character from scratch). The extra fitting really does wonders when you're new, and the raven lets you skip many skills with really only the addition of target painting.

Typhoon vs cane is yet again sort of the same thing. The addition of drones and the alternative of missiles coupled with the massive tanking advantages makes the phoon very appealing for low sp chars. The cane is relatively unforgiving and the cyclone is kind of the same thing as drake vs raven.

The big difference however is that BCs are a dead end in terms of missions, generally you'll want a battleship for level 4's(Tengu really the only noteworthy exception) meaning all skills for medium guns and bcs are more or less wasted. This is obviously barely a point now that BCs and medium guns/missiles are prerequisites but the domi for example will be better than the mym almost at level 1 bs even with the changes(Still just talking level 3 mission performance primarily for low SP characters)
Hamnavoe Amatin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-12-15 21:54:08 UTC
Hi everyone!

Few things have changed since I've posted this thread, I've joined ArK University and they are teaching me all the basics on mission runnings and basic pvp skills, once I have all the badges I can go don to null sec with their corp and fly around with them.

I've half way through level two missions with my current fit, which is really really good. It did cost a lot, but ArK Uni paid for it :)