EVE New Citizens Q&A

...or scan for a new exit. Probes are the key to wormhole navigation.

You are correct assuming a wormhole can collapse if big ships jump through. Each time a ship jumps through it's mass will be subtracted from the total allowed mass for that connection: if that threshold is reached, the wormhole will collapse. It is entirely possible for a Battleship to jump through and collapse the wormhole.

You are right about the collapse mechanic.

A wormhole has 2 parameters in its life cycle:

Time
Mass

When either one is used up it collapses.

So it's easily done by jumping a heavy ship through a wormhole to collapse it. WH residents even do that to force a WH to collapse if the other side isnt in a location to their liking.

If you take a battleship with lots of mass and then put as much plating on it as possible (as plating adds mass to your ship) you can chain jump a WH to make it collapse.

Thought I'd add that when it comes to wormholes, there is a ship oddity: the Amarr Devoter Heavy Interdiction Cruiser (HIC) [and to a lesser extent the other HICs].

A Devoter can be fit with a lot of armor plates to make it a very heavy ship for its size (cruiser-class), but it can also use Warp Disruption Field Generators (WDFG) which reduce the mass of the ship by 80%. Plus it can fit more than one of them.

So a Devoter can enter a wormhole with the WDFG turned on (=light as a feather mode), then jump back through with the WDFG turned off (=heavy as a battleship mode) and collapse the wormhole.

Next time you explore wormhole space, check out

www.staticmapper.com

It will give you stats and activity for the system you are in, like the class of wormhole and how many ships have been killed recently. If you "trust" the site in your in-game browser it will load your system automatically when you open the site.

It's very useful when scouting around because it will tell you the class of the static for each system. Every wormhole system has a "static" wormhole, which always leads to the same class system. Wormhole systems are classified as C1-C6 and can have static connections to other wormhole systems or to empire space. Static doesn't mean it will lead to the same system every day - just the same class of system. A wormhole system with a static high-sec will always open up to somewhere in high-sec, and when the wormhole dies due to time or mass it will open a new connection to a different system in high-sec.

You'll also find other types of wormholes. Casual wormholes are more random and can't be predicted like static wormholes. Incoming wormholes are always labeled K162, meaning they originated in a different system (either that system's static or a casual connection). It's helpful to think of wormholes as having a "front" and a "back". They are spawned when someone warps to the "front", and they exit in the "back" system, where they are always labeled K162. Once it's been spawned, however, it's a two-way street and anyone can jump through either side.

Oh nice, first time I have a good look at the culprit, that thing felt a lot bigger, in fact, there must have been some scifi magic dust in my eyes but it looked like some bigger Gallente ship to me at the time *confused* ...

just gonna say, if you start liking wormholes alot, you should hit up some fo the larger alliances (which theya re, i dont know anymore, its been a long while since i flew with SYJ, and theya rent even wormhole anymore).

wormholes can eb fun, small group PvP, and they make enough money in the serious groups to pay for their game time with isk, aswell as fly some of the most ridiculous ships in the game (that is, a cruiser easily worth a small battleship fleet, back in SYj we had multiple people who flew Lokis with deadspace and faction mods all over them), and we id that for pvp XD

There it is, your fit is **** took a lot longer than I expected.

Thank you for your concern, I am aware that my fit was ridiculous on that ship. I'm on my second week into EvE now with less than a mil SP. I will try all kinds of fits and modules from such things as how certain weapons sound to their properties and behaviour.

I had heavy missile launchers on it about 15 minutes before that incident, and since my skills would not allow me to fit what I wanted with those heavy launchers I fitted the small repairer because it was the only thing I had in my hangar at that time and at that location, so I thought why not, I could at least repair some armor dents if it went to that, rather than having the slot empty.

I dont think I undocked with that Stabber many times using the fit I had the previous flight on it, and sure as heck never had any pro-fit on it, which will be for Gallente ships anyway now that I finally made my mind which ships I want to fly.

That will be in the future though, when I one day wake up and something feels different, like I somehow know, that this will be the day when I am ready to take a step unto pro-ness. For the time being I'll bookmark the site, ty.

If you're trying to find a large number of the larger wormhole groups, start with Talocan United channel. They aren't an alliance any more, but a large number of people kept the channel open as a sort of lounge. You can ask them just about anything and usually get a response.

It's pretty uncommon for a WH exit to collapse behind you in a short time like that.

Either you were very, very unlucky, or your opponent here had access to a friend or two that actively shut the wormhole on you.

Launching probes to find a new exit was your option, however, doing so is in itself fairly dangerous if your probing experience comes from highsec. Even if you are probing from a safespot a covert ops ship can catch you.

If you want to get into wormholes, I highly recommend getting real probing experience, and the best way to get that is to start out by probing down player ships in highsec, then once you have that downpat, try to do the same in lowsec while constantly moving between safespots (or if you are in a ship with immunity to untargetted interdiction, you can do this in null or WH).

Probing down mission runners in highsec and then messing with them is hilarious fun too - you might find that even more entertaining than the goal of getting into wormhole space.

Hmm! This sounds like a fun way to get some probing experience, people tossing around these ideas and suggestions is what makes forums often a lot better over some static sources :)