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New dev blog: Little improvements - Making the world a little better

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Icarus Helia
State War Academy
Caldari State
#141 - 2011-11-22 03:01:26 UTC
Cordo Draken wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Eladaris wrote:
Rixiu wrote:
Seriously? You let us replace our personal wallet with corp wallet yet left the ******* aur balance where it is?

Wallet Balance [ALT-W]
99,999,999,999.00
Corp Balance
99,999,999,999.00

How hard can it be?


Umm...

SuperSpy00bob and I suggested that exact thing on page 3, and we already got a dev response in this thread that they'd look at it, and try to make it happen. Prob. not in time for the expansion though. It's... a few posts prior to yours.


hey why would Rixiu read all the comments, maybe that would stop him from being bitter and a bit rude Blink


Cause like me, some people don't have an hour or so to read through all the comments. We read the blog, skim first page of comments to get initial response for the obvious... Don't see our concern, we reply our opinion. Some bloggers understand the TLDR, and a sharp blogger would have had CCP Guard edit and update the OP with something new you are addressing or updating for such concerns.

Btw, Passive aggressive still comes off bad to your clients.


perhaps you should wait to reply until you CAN read all of the comments, or at least skim them, instead of defending rude behavior and contributing to arbitrary thread length. punkturis has been posting responses to this thread for many hours on her own time at home,I would consider this to be something you would want to reinforce with good behavior rather than prevent it by being a jerk without any useful contribution such as the suggestions made by earlier concerned posters on the same subject.

TL;DR - don't rage post, especially in response to the first thing you read.

Why you no care?
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#142 - 2011-11-22 03:01:49 UTC
Cordo Draken wrote:
Btw, Passive aggressive still comes off bad to your clients.


Not really, rude people shouldn't be mollycoddled and pandered too. There's a difference between asking something that's already been asked politely because you didn't read the whole thread, and being a prick while showing you didn't bother reading the whole thing.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.
Xornicon Altair
Black Watch Syndicate
#143 - 2011-11-22 04:01:38 UTC
So, while you're making skill queue changes, is there any chance that you could increase the queue time? 24 hours often doesn't work for me. I'll see the skill when there's 3 days left, and then forget about it until it's been done for several hours and I wake up to see that I've lost several hours of training time.

This is the song....
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#144 - 2011-11-22 04:14:03 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Care Bear King wrote:
Feature Request:

- Allow us to start multiple votes to lock/unlock BPOs if multiple BPOs are selected when a vote to lock/unlock is initiated.
- Allow us to register multiple votes simultaneously if multiple open votes are selected when a yes/no vote is cast.
- Allow us to put multiple passed votes into effect simultaneously if multiple passed votes are selected before issuing command.

This request would address the issue of wanting to move offices, but being unable to because you've managed to lock down some 800+ BPOs over the years and don't want to get carpal tunnel going through the 2400+ mouse clicks (and miles of scroll wheel usage) currently required to unlock them all prior to unrenting the office in question.


oh look a feature request thread!!



Up late Duchess? :)

Where I am.
Kassasis Dakkstromri
State War Academy
Caldari State
#145 - 2011-11-22 04:14:06 UTC
CCP Greyscale right-clicked EVERYTHING?!.... pix or it didn't happen. :P

But seriously - that's a lot of right clicks... Shocked

Anyway very cool changes +1

CCP you are bad at EVE... Stop potential silliness ~ Solo Wulf
Mishatola
Atoll Explorers
#146 - 2011-11-22 04:56:56 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Lors Dornick wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
On a related note, can you look into why everyone in a corp's wallet flashes when someone adjusts the corp wallet balance by making a market order or selling something where the money goes into the corp wallet? It's been a weird bug that's been happening for months now. It even affects people in the corporation who can't see the corp wallet at all. This is not simply limited to the corporation this character is in.


I know! it's so annoying, it happens to me all the time and each and every time my wallet flashes I go check if someone was nice enough to give me ISK - but no, neverBlink

I'll see if I can do something about it.


Don't worry, I fixed that.

That you never get any ISK that is ;)


lol I was (mostly) just joking! Blink


This might be related to why the wallet blinks when orders are updated, when only the blink wallet on transaction changes is checked.... might as well check that out while your at it :P
Mishatola
Atoll Explorers
#147 - 2011-11-22 05:05:01 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Raid'En wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
tgl3 wrote:
The world map box change is much appreciated!


Greyscale kind of deserved that feature after all that right clicking Blink Good thing other players benefit from it too!


how about the systems list on the left ? it's gone since a while, and i need it :/

i'm talking about this : http://tof.canardpc.com/view/3ed76b5f-7ed1-4c3f-abd9-69ebe3332cef.jpg

since the beginning on winter build it has disappeared, while i use it very often :/


But you have the new and improved system info, and it looks the same in both map mode and not map mode Blink
You can see all the system names if you mouse over the colored boxes.


Its the change from region to region that i'm going to miss. It does not stand out in the format on sisi.
Dareth Meroul
OMRE
#148 - 2011-11-22 06:04:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Dareth Meroul
Cordo Draken wrote:

Btw, Passive aggressive still comes off bad to your clients.

You've misused (possibly misunderstood) Passive-aggressive. CCP Punkturis was giving feedback to Rixiu about checking before he posts and regarding his general rudeness, while softening the sting of the feedback with a teasing tone (adding a wink to make sure that it was clear the tone was teasing) while not copping out of the comment.

After all, not reading the entire thread and posting to make sure your perspective is heard isn't that bad, so long as one isn't a jerk about it---especially since it's always possible that others have shared the same insight, which makes one come off an even bigger jerk. Without the rudeness, there probably wouldn't have been any feedback.

But to reiterate the "mistaking as Passive-aggressive" point: if there had been a sullenness, testiness, or veiled anger followed by a belated comment (such as "just kidding" or "just saying") designed as an easy out -- instead of directness with softening -- well, then calling it Passive-aggressive would have been a better fit.

You know, if it'd been something more like this:
Cordo Draken wrote:
I'm not one to pick at positive improvements ... but how long did those little things take? Cause Team Papercuts made a Ton of really cool and needed Fixes in 3 weeks... And that Bar is set pretty high, and by the looks of it, you just used a popsicle stick to jump with. *shrug* just saying.
Rip Minner
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
#149 - 2011-11-22 06:12:06 UTC
Nice improvements guys! Big smile

Is it a rock point a lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship point a lazer at it and profit. I dont see any problems here.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#150 - 2011-11-22 07:27:11 UTC
Yea, someone sent me like few billiion to corp wallet in th release date so i woild see does that optin works. Blink

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#151 - 2011-11-22 07:55:23 UTC
Cordo Draken wrote:
I'm not one to pick at positive improvements, and I really like the world map staying minimized, but the rest of that post I really couldn't get excited about. Seemed kinda half inspired... Like seeing the corp wallet, so now I can toggle personal or corp wallet when I hover over my wallet; why not toggle to show both or just personel? Cause I'm guessing that I'm always gonna want to see my personal wallet when I see it go flashy.
Maybe I'm just being Devil's advocate here, but how long did those little things take? Cause Team Papercuts made a Ton of really cool and needed Fixes in 3 weeks... And that Bar is set pretty high, and by the looks of it, you just used a popsicle stick to jump with. *shrug* just saying.


This is not a competition between dev teams, we're all on the same team - working towards the same goal! Papercuts, BFF and Pink Zombie Kittens were all picking items from the same backlog, trying to make things nicer for our players Smile

There's more people involved in a story than a programmer. A game designer sets it up, a UI designer might make a design for it, a programmer does stuff and then QA tests it.

Those changes, took me less than a week but they're still nice improvements for many, but I worked on UI Scaling too as seen in previous dev blog.

You'll see a list of all we did in the patch nodes, it's going to take you a while to read all that Big smile

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis ♥
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#152 - 2011-11-22 08:05:23 UTC
Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
CCP Greyscale right-clicked EVERYTHING?!.... pix or it didn't happen. :P

But seriously - that's a lot of right clicks... Shocked

Anyway very cool changes +1


I should have filmed it! Blink
It actually took him a few hours!

and thanks! glad you like them Big smile

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis ♥
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#153 - 2011-11-22 08:08:54 UTC
Icarus Helia wrote:
Mar A'uder wrote:
Since your improving some of the skill book aspects of the game, can you also make it to where you can see, pause, and resume the currently training skill on the jump clone page of the character sheet? I find it terribly aggravating having to switch back and forth for one clone jump.


QFT

although, I think they were going to change that at some point, where initiating a clone jump would automatically do all of those things for you. Maybe I'm wrong? If they aren't planning to do that - they should.


Yup, that story is on our backlog!

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis ♥
Mallikanth
Wasters
#154 - 2011-11-22 08:25:01 UTC
Duchess CCP Punkturis has the sauce, with lots of win. Big smileBear

What is it with CCP these last few weeks? The geeks suddenly get their grove on? Cool Or has the "management" gone on holiday?

Believe in what they do, not what they say.
NorthCrossroad
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#155 - 2011-11-22 09:24:25 UTC  |  Edited by: NorthCrossroad
Hey

Really, guys. Is it SO hard to add a quicksearch edit box on the left side of the skill queue window? So people could look for aspecific skill they want to train even if they don't remember in which group needed skill is.

North
Pirmasis Sparagas
Bullet Cluster
#156 - 2011-11-22 09:39:09 UTC
Very cool stuff - bravo!

hm... I don't know where to say... maybe here. I would realy like one minor tweak.

When you look at ships info box in skills tab, you see what skills you already got trained and what not. Now after this blog we will see that in individual skill info box too - whats nice! But do you know what I realy wanted? When you are in ships info recommendation tab (where are certificates listed for that particular ship), you can't see what certificates you have leardned, and what don't. It whould realy help if you could look that information.

From my post we have one week until full winter expantion release. But it's very minor fix. Can you make it until expantion? How long does it take to fix it?

It's a chalange! :)
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#157 - 2011-11-22 09:45:03 UTC
I thought BFF were working on making null worth living in (read: sovereignty, aka.Dominion Mk.II).

What happened, you realise that it couldn't be done overnight with your eyes closed so you decided to work on low-hanging fruit instead?

At this rate the December thing won't be an expansion by any definition of the word as it "merely" contains bug fixes and balancing measures .. is there a word for extensive maintenance patch?
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#158 - 2011-11-22 09:50:55 UTC
Pirmasis Sparagas wrote:
Very cool stuff - bravo!

hm... I don't know where to say... maybe here. I would realy like one minor tweak.

When you look at ships info box in skills tab, you see what skills you already got trained and what not. Now after this blog we will see that in individual skill info box too - whats nice! But do you know what I realy wanted? When you are in ships info recommendation tab (where are certificates listed for that particular ship), you can't see what certificates you have leardned, and what don't. It whould realy help if you could look that information.

From my post we have one week until full winter expantion release. But it's very minor fix. Can you make it until expantion? How long does it take to fix it?

It's a chalange! :)


Hey! no feature creeping right before release!Blink
I recommend you suggest this in the "little things" thread that Soundwave is running and I liked in an earlier post.

♥ EVE Brogrammer ♥ Team Five 0 ♥ @CCP_Punkturis ♥
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#159 - 2011-11-22 09:51:48 UTC
Mallikanth wrote:
Duchess CCP Punkturis has the sauce, with lots of win. Big smileBear

What is it with CCP these last few weeks? The geeks suddenly get their grove on? Cool Or has the "management" gone on holiday?



My theory still is that benevolent aliens abducted CCP Hilmar and replaced him with a clone.

(It is either that or CCP Hilmar somehow figured out that pissing on your existing paying subscribers while spending all profits on developing other games and unpopular microtransaction features is not a sustainable business model. I know, it is unlikely, so my bet is still on the alien abduction theory...)
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2011-11-22 09:53:40 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:

You'll see a list of all we did in the patch nodes, it's going to take you a while to read all that Big smile


WTB these epic patch notes. Now. I mean, you are in bug fixing mode, so the feature list should be final, no?