Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Heavy Missile Fix
Addendum: The consensus seems to be that HAMs are fine for the moment, so I've revised the OP to just focus on heavy missiles. There were quite a few interesting suggestions which I endeavored to replicate.

Heavy Missile Fix
This version compares the current rapid light missiles, current heavy missiles and proposed heavy missiles. Damage application to smaller targets remains essentially unchanged, and unmodified damage to cruiser-sized targets has increased by about 50%. To achieve full damage potential against cruiser-size targets you'd need to utilize either rigs (featured) or target painters. I'm not sure how this potentially unbalances rapid heavy missile launchers though.

Looks like HAMs get a hefty buff and HMs get barely anything. How is this a fix?

HAMs need a slight buff, while HMs need a more substantial one. You seem to have that reversed in your chart. Honestly, without being able to test it's hard to say, but I can't help but think HAMs would become considerably overpowered if they used your idea. On the other hand HMs would still pretty much suck, though probably not utterly and irredeemably anymore. I still don't see the fix you are talking about.

exactly this, missile's fight-flavor is that no matter what the transversal is, what your shooting, if theya re within range, you WILL hit them.

its low DPS/alpha, because its near-GUARANTEED dps.

Sure, because HAMs totally aren't very very good already. And because light missiles totally aren't the best small weapon system by a giant margin. And because Cruises/Torps/Rapid Heavy are unusable in pvp always.

As I've said before:

Make long range missiles good at hitting fast targets but poor at hitting small targets - Excellent explosion velocity with poor (large) Explosion radius. This way you would use TP's and Rigor rigs with long range missiles.

Make short range missiles good at hitting small targets but poor at hitting fast targets - Excellent (Small) explosion radius with poor explosion velocity. This way you would use webs and flare rigs with these.

That's actually a very good idea.

yes cos that HAM tengu isn't at all OP

what we need are more missile types rather than just buffing the 2 of them... also i think the heavy part tells you it they shouldn't be great at tracking smaller targets...

now if they added a medium missile type to the cruiser category .. the name would suggest a middle of the park balance between lights (anti frig) and heavy (raw damage geared towards anti bc /higher sig brawling cruiser).

also those missile tracking mods we have been expecting since about 2 fanfests ago would be helpful for adding options..

Except, good explosion radius can compensate for poor explosion velocity, while the reverse is not true.



If they're in range and their speed isn't too high. Just a small fix - it's actually possible to completely avoid missile damage, provided you're moving fast enough, no matter the range.

That said, imo HMs need a wee bit of a buff, HAMs are fine and RLML are ok as well.

as if medium turrets can't already pop small frigates with a couple of volleys, and instacanes are just an urban legend, because turrets NEVER hit frigates, and nobody puts light drones in cruiser drone boats.