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Planetary Interaction Custom Layouts
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Hexalise
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-11-22 04:23:52 UTC
After the Odyssey 1.1 patch which added custom probe formations I started wanting the ability to save PI structure layouts. When the need to rework your planets comes around, deleting every structure and then replacing them all can be very tiresome and time consuming, particularly when it needs to be done 6 times for several characters; it can take a couple hours at that point.

It would be extremely convenient if there was a button similar to the custom probe option that serves the same function to allow quick and easy replacement of structures, links, extraction plans, etc.

Since this normally can be done from anywhere it wouldn't affect any aspect of the current process except the time spent placing everything.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#2 - 2013-11-22 06:48:19 UTC
PI needs a massive overall and should be integrated to use Dust type districts & map layouts. Where you have a number of 'large/medium/small' slots to use in a district space. And space on each planet is limited and can be destroyed by incursions.

Then the dust players get their PvE content against drones & the like as shown in dust trailers, and we get more integration with dust. In order to make for EVE players to have influence, allow some of those slots to be defensive type buildings that enhance the dust bunnies effects, and when dust structures that can fire into orbit are included, also include space side NPC fleets doing orbital support that the EVE players can disrupt to help the dust bunnies.

That way you have to make choices. Do you go for max yield and hope the random dusties the Empires bring in to defend your territory are good enough. Or do you go for an even spread which gives them a bit of advantage. Or a heavy 'tank' on your district and only a few production buildings for low income, but high security that you will get to keep it.

As well as vastly simplifying the interface, removing all this crazy hotspot stuff, and making a lot more sense when tied into the lore.
Skills can be converted into tech level requirements for the various building levels & types.
Then just work out some sort of event system that requires you to actually pay attention to your district if there isn't an incursion regularly also.
Risk is provided with incursions, so it's not risk free income anymore.
Phoenix Cervantez
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-11-22 07:45:11 UTC
Hexalise wrote:
After the Odyssey 1.1 patch which added custom probe formations I started wanting the ability to save PI structure layouts. When the need to rework your planets comes around, deleting every structure and then replacing them all can be very tiresome and time consuming, particularly when it needs to be done 6 times for several characters; it can take a couple hours at that point.

It would be extremely convenient if there was a button similar to the custom probe option that serves the same function to allow quick and easy replacement of structures, links, extraction plans, etc.

Since this normally can be done from anywhere it wouldn't affect any aspect of the current process except the time spent placing everything.


+1
Jordan Jansen
#4 - 2013-11-22 13:18:05 UTC
+1

I suggested something similar a while ago. I'm tempted to link it but I won't

It takes me an average of 2 hours to reset my PI, and this is just moving the extractor heads around, not even talking about how long it takes if I have to rebuild the whole setup elsewhere on the planet.
Hexalise
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-11-22 14:58:56 UTC
Jordan Jansen wrote:
+1

I suggested something similar a while ago. I'm tempted to link it but I won't

It takes me an average of 2 hours to reset my PI, and this is just moving the extractor heads around, not even talking about how long it takes if I have to rebuild the whole setup elsewhere on the planet.


I checked to see if anyone posted a similar idea before and didn't see. I see your post now on the first page.
Commander Jane Shepard
Starbois
#6 - 2013-11-22 19:14:27 UTC
+1
Kaultyrr Feirynn
Strength Through Factual Unification
#7 - 2013-11-22 19:48:49 UTC
I wholeheartedly agree. Templates are everyone's friend. The less time that I am spending micromanaging my PI, the more time I am out there getting blown up in mining ships. As we all know, more explosions are better for everyone.

There are a lot of things that could be streamlined about the PI interface. A colleague of mine has started a forum for the PI-minded on how to change it for the better. Look at and comment on his favorite issues here: http://www.kinzland.com/eveoforums/jtr/index.php
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2013-11-22 20:01:53 UTC
I strongly support this idea.

I only have 1 pattern that I employ on all of my planets and rebuilding it is always the most time consuming (albeit rare) work to do with the PI. Custom patterns would come in very handy there.

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
Grand Formage
The Planetary Baron Society
#9 - 2013-11-24 20:06:09 UTC
Thank you Kaultyrr Feirynn for your plug. My hope is that we will develop ideas solid enough for CCP's consideration. It is a new forum so it can use all the support it can get. additionally, my hope is the PI is actually considered a profession by the player base. It amazes me how many do not especially since it combines to profession types (by concept); mining (of planets) and manufacturing (the combining of one product with another product to product a different product). How is that not considered a profession. I have even given people that conduct PI a title... A Planetary Baron... hence the forum name...

The Planetary Baron Society.

WE WANT A BETTER PI, AND WE WANT IT NOW!

Join the PI Revolution TODAY!

http://kinzland.com/eveoforums/jtr

A template system would be the most efficient system for what i call "compound" building. I know myself, i have 5 accounts totalling 72 planets that I have to interact with, so if anything can be done that will reduce the click fest, i want to make it happen. unfortunately, anytime someone talks of making PI better, the majority of players thing we want it made easy.. That could not be farther from the truth. "Work smarter, not harder" is my goal; easier and wealthier will simply be a byproduct.
Commander Jane Shepard
Starbois
#10 - 2013-12-10 18:09:27 UTC
I'd like to see this added in the next expansion. Would make a very long and tedious aspect of eve industry a lot easier on time.
Jacques Molyneux
Stubborn Miners INC.
#11 - 2013-12-10 19:47:11 UTC
I am so for this :)