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Popalonius Palonius
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-12-09 00:10:50 UTC
So I'm trying to pick up ore from a 0.1 system with my miasmos and I got blasted as soon as I left the station by campers. What can I fit my miasmos with so I can have a chance of warping away. My current setup is pretty lame I figure with 4 warp stablilizers I and 4 shield rechargers. If anyone can help please let me know.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#2 - 2013-12-09 00:17:39 UTC
Best way would be to just check population of the system. Call in a friend to observe the station & inform you when nobody's outside to gank.

Also, to make it harder for gankers, make a buffertank (so no shieldrehcargers, but shield-extenders) adding a DC2 helps alot as well.

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Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-12-09 00:22:20 UTC
Shield rechargers are a bad choice. stabs are fine so you should get shield extenders and shield resistance modules together with a damage control unit. A other thing is you should eventually make a insta undock bookmark for that station if you plan on doing stuff like that more often on that station.

How to make a insta undock bookmark:
-undock with something fast
-do not navigate (click nothing just let the ship fly away from the undock)
-wait till you are at least 150km away from the station and bookmark the location

Once you have done that the next time you undock with your hauler select the bookmark and warp to it. Due to the velocity from the undock you are aligned with full speed to your bookmark and can warp to it. From there you can proceed to navigate where ever you want to.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-12-09 00:22:42 UTC
one would question why you are picking up ore from lowsec in a t1 hauler?

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Popalonius Palonius
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-12-09 00:24:07 UTC
Cheng Musana wrote:
Shield rechargers are a bad choice. stabs are fine so you should get shield extenders and shield resistance modules together with a damage control unit. A other thing is you should eventually make a insta undock bookmark for that station if you plan on doing stuff like that more often on that station.

How to make a insta undock bookmark:
-undock with something fast
-do not navigate (click nothing just let the ship fly away from the undock)
-wait till you are at least 150km away from the station and bookmark the location

Once you have done that the next time you undock with your hauler select the bookmark and warp to it. Due to the velocity from the undock you are aligned with full speed to your bookmark and can warp to it. From there you can proceed to navigate where ever you want to.


Thanks for the tip friend
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#6 - 2013-12-09 00:27:17 UTC
Undocking and rolling doesn't necessarily produce an undock insta that is in the middle of the fan of possible undock courses. You should work out where the exit is, and use the "tactical" overlay to align your undock insta with the center of the fan, since undocks are all aligned in such a way that this works.

(as suggested to me by Ruby Porto).

That has produced for me far more reliable instas.
Popalonius Palonius
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-12-09 00:50:27 UTC
Thanks for the tips but can someone recommend a fitting?
Fleur Kendall
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-12-09 00:59:15 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Best way would be to just check population of the system. Call in a friend to observe the station & inform you when nobody's outside to gank.

Also, to make it harder for gankers, make a buffertank (so no shieldrehcargers, but shield-extenders) adding a DC2 helps alot as well.


thinks it is right there. Buffer means no recharge (you shouldn't be around for long enough for recharge to matter, either your are warping off or you are dead)

play around with it, see what it gives you compared to incoming damage from your combat logs.
Popalonius Palonius
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-12-09 01:05:44 UTC
Fleur Kendall wrote:
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Best way would be to just check population of the system. Call in a friend to observe the station & inform you when nobody's outside to gank.

Also, to make it harder for gankers, make a buffertank (so no shieldrehcargers, but shield-extenders) adding a DC2 helps alot as well.


thinks it is right there. Buffer means no recharge (you shouldn't be around for long enough for recharge to matter, either your are warping off or you are dead)

play around with it, see what it gives you compared to incoming damage from your combat logs.


I'm new so what's a buffertank and what's a dc2?
WASPY69
Xerum.
#10 - 2013-12-09 01:14:17 UTC
Popalonius Palonius wrote:
Fleur Kendall wrote:
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Best way would be to just check population of the system. Call in a friend to observe the station & inform you when nobody's outside to gank.

Also, to make it harder for gankers, make a buffertank (so no shieldrehcargers, but shield-extenders) adding a DC2 helps alot as well.


thinks it is right there. Buffer means no recharge (you shouldn't be around for long enough for recharge to matter, either your are warping off or you are dead)

play around with it, see what it gives you compared to incoming damage from your combat logs.


I'm new so what's a buffertank and what's a dc2?

Buffer Tank = a lot of raw HP (Either shield or Armor, or even Hull) and DC2 = Damage Control II.
Also I'd like to note that as a new player without grasp of how lowsec usually works, i'd strongly suggest not to venture into lowsec in a T1 hauler.
Usually ganking a T1 hauler, despite it's buffer, you will have enough DPS to melt if before it aligns. So if you really HAVE TO bring a T1 hauler to low sec, bring someone to scout 1 jump ahead of you, and do the Microwarpdrive/Cloak trick (Search it on youtube)

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#11 - 2013-12-09 02:43:36 UTC
Popalonius Palonius wrote:
So I'm trying to pick up ore from a 0.1 system with my miasmos and I got blasted as soon as I left the station by campers. What can I fit my miasmos with so I can have a chance of warping away. My current setup is pretty lame I figure with 4 warp stablilizers I and 4 shield rechargers. If anyone can help please let me know.


There's never any guarantee that you can get away, all they need is 1 more point of warp scramble strength than you have stabilizers, and you're done.

The big secret to not getting killed is - exit the game, forget about EvE for a couple hours. Better yet if you can stay online for a few hours while you go do something else. They get bored sooner or later and leave - I promise. Camping is not fun, and if you're not getting any action, the attention span doesn't last all that long. Of course that won't stop you from getting ganked by another gang a few systems over but - that's EvE. Don't play in prime times, avoid the time zone you were camped in (if in US prime time, try to get on earlier next time so you're in EU prime time) and you'll avoid the gang. A lot of EvE is time-zone management.

Of course the BEST advice, however, is go buy yourself a whole bunch of cheap ships, try to fit them out for combat (a warp scrambler/disruptor, a propulsion mod, and as much DPS and you can manage to get on there - tank is not so important especially on small ships, you speed tank or you're dead). Change your "safety" to yellow, and go out to lowsec and find people to kill. You will die often. But sooner or later you'll learn to fight, learn to defend yourself, and then campers/gankers will not be a problem anymore. Even better is you could meet some people who will become friends and who will be willing to teach you a thing or two. Eve is NOT a single player game.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#12 - 2013-12-09 04:01:03 UTC
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#13 - 2013-12-09 05:03:19 UTC
Popalonius Palonius wrote:
So I'm trying to pick up ore from a 0.1 system with my miasmos and I got blasted as soon as I left the station by campers. What can I fit my miasmos with so I can have a chance of warping away. My current setup is pretty lame I figure with 4 warp stablilizers I and 4 shield rechargers. If anyone can help please let me know.




I suspect you popped into that system, the locals were like "ooh something to gank!" and they were perfectly waiting for you once you undocked. They probably had someone in the station looking at the Guests tab too.

Yeah. To gank a Miasmos. But somehow mining rocks all day is the most maligned playstyle but that's another matter.

If you are going to hit lowsec stations for ore, I would suggest you take into account that you are fresh meat in the land of the dead and know that once you pop in, there's a "heads up" and they are tabbing back to the Eve client from their web forums or KBs within 10 seconds. Therefore, you should always dock up, but forget about picking up the ore and then leaving. Time your arrival and pickup such that it's the last thing you are going to do, then put the ore in your ship and log out for the day.

I have been camped into enough lowsec stations to know the patterns and leaving right after you pick up what you came for is a sure way to have someone waiting for you. So if you can't blow them up, screw them over and don't undock. If you want to answer to that old riddle of "how to keep a moron in suspense", leave your Eve client logged in while you are docked and then call it a day. Let them wait for you and get nothing out of it. If everybody did it there would be more "force all mission runners to lowsec" threads in the forums and you will have more ganker tears to bask in.

The other advice in this thread is also good. An "insta-undock" bookmark is a bookmark directly lined up with the undock vector of the station. Search around the web and you will learn more about it - they are very helpful.

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