Player Features and Ideas Discussion

At the moment all 3 high-sec incursions are being farmed along with low-sec incursion while 3 null-sec incursions are completely useless.

Idea is simple: remove 3 null-sec incursions and add 3 incursions into high-sec (or 2 to high-sec + 1 to low-sec). Because high-sec incursions are extremely overcrowded lately (that's why people have to farm almost twice less profitable low-sec incursion).

i have better idea - remove all incursions from high sec. That would solve really many problems. Increase payouts for incursions in low/null sec.

You can't be serious...

I think you have your ideas backwards (and mixed up locations) they should remove high sec incursions and move them to low sec. The best (bounty) pay high sec should offer is level 4 missions.

Since incursion systems are cyno jammed, a incursion fleet won't have to worry about hot drops.

Stealth "my jumpbridges are borked by NPCs and I can't clear them out myself" thread.

Oh no you don't.

None of those shenanigans around here, OP.

The only Incursion related suggestion that should ever exist is their complete removal from the game. CCP should apologize for them and get rid of them. They have done nothing positive except give carebears tons of risk free isk.

What a great idea

"I don't think those people are using that part of the game enough. Give it to us!"


If you want nullsec incursions go take a fleet out and try to survive. Could be fun

Honestly incursions are too easy, they need to add more ewar to it and make them more deadly and random.

Except it doesn't need the incursion farmers to kill the mom. The locals could make the decision and then kill it on the incursion farmers. Also, don't lump anyone who does incursions into the same group, a lot of people do them without being dramabears. So, it would change the dynamic of the incursions from where we are currently, in that farming it would become a trade off compared to the penalties (Whatever they happen to be), vs the current farming being penalty free. And actually beneficial as it keeps a new incursion from spawning elsewhere at high influence again that has to be ground down.



As for this.... Incursions aren't risk free by a long way. The only reason they even seem that way is because the prime communities have spent years creating doctrines which work, and spent a lot of time invested into training pilots up in said doctrines, and they enforce those doctrines. You know, just like a Null Sec fleet enforces doctrines and then turkey shoots high sec players in Doril.... Sure didn't see any Null Sec players complaining that was too safe for Null Sec then. What I did see was 'Well if you could organise a real doctrine'..... Yet the second high sec players actually do that they get accused of it being risk free. Go take a kitchen sink fleet of 40 into a TCRC with an FC who doesn't know them
And see how many make it out alive once the warp out because we can't do this command is given.

Except null-sec doctrines change because other players find counter-doctrines that destroy them. And then new doctrines must be created... which results in new counter-doctrines.

When you are talking about PvE the doctrine never changes because the content never does (so there is no need to change). You know exactly what you are getting into and what it needed to do it "right." No such thing exists in PvP. Hence, why more than few of us call some high-sec content "risk free." Once the doctrine is in place and everyone knows what they are doing there are few, if any, variables beyond the predictable that can go wrong.