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Starbase Forcefield Bumpin 'exploit'.

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-12-06 17:33:02 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
So who died to cause this ruling?


Don't know who the victim was this time, but it seems CCP logs have improved over the years. They went from "Our logs show nothing" to "Our logs show everything".
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-12-06 18:16:41 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
NEONOVUS wrote:
So who died to cause this ruling?


Don't know who the victim was this time, but it seems CCP logs have improved over the years. They went from "Our logs show nothing" to "Our logs show everything".


Actually this would be a pretty good response to every single whine.

"Our logs show everything."
















*were you expecting anything to be done about it?
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-12-06 18:25:15 UTC
Sooo, ummm .... why can a small ship bump a large and insanely heavier ship? Yeah.

Also do we need a class to memorize all the exploits due to silly game mechanics?

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seth Hendar
I love you miners
#24 - 2013-12-06 18:57:07 UTC
that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......



clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?

stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-12-06 18:59:16 UTC
seth Hendar wrote:
that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......



clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?

stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it.



Which part is bullshit, exactly?

As others have noted, this isn't a new exploit. It's been known and regarded as an exploit for years.

Whatever prompted the reminder, hopefully they doled out some punishment with it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

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Pedo Thellere
Doomheim
#26 - 2013-12-06 19:00:30 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
No. Read the announcement again, this time with eyes open.

What about the announcement could he have possibly misread? They say we can no longer take advantage of idiot cap/supercap pilots who are sitting in a small pos with their asses hanging out in the breeze. How is that an exploit? There are many ways to prevent this such as BUY A BIGGER POS. It really is a bullshit call.
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#27 - 2013-12-06 19:09:36 UTC  |  Edited by: seth Hendar
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:
that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......



clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?

stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it.



Which part is bullshit, exactly?

As others have noted, this isn't a new exploit. It's been known and regarded as an exploit for years.

Whatever prompted the reminder, hopefully they doled out some punishment with it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

two reasons:

calling this an exploit, it as been used for so long, it's one of the only way to actually kill a titan (wich CCP already aknowledge hey don't die often enought), and protecting someone for being dumb, wich go against the moto of eve, where being dumb lead to consequences.

the recent events, it's almost like CCP is claiming that killing a titan is an exploit....seriously this is bad.

at lerast we are now sure CCP doesn't give a F*** about emergent / clever gameplay, despite what they claim.

while i agree the bumping mechanic need to be adressed for the titan (the current easyness is ridiculous), this particular "solution" is dumb (to stay polite).

it's OK to call the e-warp bumbing an exploit, because on this one, the pilot can't do a thing, but for the pos bumping one, pilot CAN solve it himself, just ******* don't use a small pos!!!!!!
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#28 - 2013-12-06 19:12:42 UTC
Pedo Thellere wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
No. Read the announcement again, this time with eyes open.

What about the announcement could he have possibly misread? They say we can no longer take advantage of idiot cap/supercap pilots who are sitting in a small pos with their asses hanging out in the breeze. How is that an exploit? There are many ways to prevent this such as BUY A BIGGER POS. It really is a bullshit call.

It sounds to me like CCP needs to define when a ship is in a POS force field. I see two definitions:

1) When all parts of its collision bubble are in the force field

2) When it is sufficiently far in the force field that it cannot be targeted or boarded.

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-12-06 19:16:33 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
seth Hendar wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:
that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......



clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?

stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it.



Which part is bullshit, exactly?

As others have noted, this isn't a new exploit. It's been known and regarded as an exploit for years.

Whatever prompted the reminder, hopefully they doled out some punishment with it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

two reasons:

calling this an exploit, it as been used for so long, )



What in the actual **** are you on about?

POS bowling has always been an exploit. Nothing changed here. CCP didn't alter the rules. This isn't new. It was a reminder for imbeciles who forgot.

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Pedo Thellere
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-12-06 19:26:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Pedo Thellere
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:
that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......



clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?

stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it.



Which part is bullshit, exactly?

As others have noted, this isn't a new exploit. It's been known and regarded as an exploit for years.

Whatever prompted the reminder, hopefully they doled out some punishment with it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

This is not the same exploit as pos bowling at all. Pos bowling didn't require some idiot to part way out of his pos.
seth Hendar
I love you miners
#31 - 2013-12-06 19:28:44 UTC  |  Edited by: seth Hendar
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:
that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......



clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?

stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it.



Which part is bullshit, exactly?

As others have noted, this isn't a new exploit. It's been known and regarded as an exploit for years.

Whatever prompted the reminder, hopefully they doled out some punishment with it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

two reasons:

calling this an exploit, it as been used for so long, )



What in the actual **** are you on about?

POS bowling has always been an exploit. Nothing changed here. CCP didn't alter the rules. This isn't new. It was a reminder for imbeciles who forgot.

pos bowling was about using a titan to bump out ships FULLY and often DEEP within the POS shield.

often done with a titan, using titan's momentum when landing on grid.

this was adressed long time ago by "hardening" the pos shield

here we are talking about bumping a ship wich is not fully inside the shield, like it is the case when you try to park a titan in a small pos.

absolutely not the same

while POS bowling was called exploit, then fixed long time ago, the issue mentionned on this devblog was knwon but up to this day, was NOT called exploit
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-12-06 20:07:19 UTC
seth Hendar wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
seth Hendar wrote:
that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......



clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?

stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it.



Which part is bullshit, exactly?

As others have noted, this isn't a new exploit. It's been known and regarded as an exploit for years.

Whatever prompted the reminder, hopefully they doled out some punishment with it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

two reasons:

calling this an exploit, it as been used for so long, )



What in the actual **** are you on about?

POS bowling has always been an exploit. Nothing changed here. CCP didn't alter the rules. This isn't new. It was a reminder for imbeciles who forgot.

pos bowling was about using a titan to bump out ships FULLY and often DEEP within the POS shield.

often done with a titan, using titan's momentum when landing on grid.

this was adressed long time ago by "hardening" the pos shield

here we are talking about bumping a ship wich is not fully inside the shield, like it is the case when you try to park a titan in a small pos.

absolutely not the same

while POS bowling was called exploit, then fixed long time ago, the issue mentionned on this devblog was knwon but up to this day, was NOT called exploit


No, they're actually very much the same. The problem is that some irresponsible jackasses looked at it and thought to themselves, "Hah! There is an insignificant and largely cosmetic difference between these two activities! We will treat them as if they are completely different things, even though we should obviously know better!"

So, here we are, with those same people whining, and everyone else rolling their eyes at the obvious exploit. Roll

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Almethea
Trans Stellar Express
#33 - 2013-12-06 20:24:34 UTC
dafuk?! really? in10y, first time the logs show something?

there's so many thing to fix in eve.... and they fix forum ! GJ! but ok i like it !

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Thead Enco
HR..
#34 - 2013-12-06 20:35:22 UTC
So who got "Black Legion'd"
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-12-06 20:38:31 UTC
Confirming "the logs show nothing" regarding a stargate consuming my T3.

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Aaron Kyoto
Frozen Silver.
Nomad Alliance
#36 - 2013-12-06 21:22:30 UTC
CCP need to clarify with an example, because 'bumping' is in a different league with 'pos bowling' and they need to explain themselves:

Is bumping a titan partially exposed from the pos now considered an exploit? Or is it in referance to warping a mothership at blank range?
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#37 - 2013-12-06 22:49:18 UTC
I seem to recall this has actually been an exploit for some time. I'm curious though what happened that they brought it up again. '

Also, the thing about CCP's logs 'not showing anything' was known bullshit even back in the day. They got caught in the lie about it a while back and have decided to come clean is all.
Vald Tegor
Empyrean Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#38 - 2013-12-06 23:04:25 UTC
Aaron Kyoto wrote:
CCP need to clarify with an example, because 'bumping' is in a different league with 'pos bowling' and they need to explain themselves:

Is bumping a titan partially exposed from the pos now considered an exploit? Or is it in referance to warping a mothership at blank range?


It sounds quite clear to me.

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Bumping ships, that are located within password protected starbase force-fields


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Trillian Stargazer
Perkone
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-12-06 23:07:12 UTC
this has to be the most pants on the head ******** thing CCP has done this year. punish players for taking advantage of other peoples mistakes. looking forward to the "using drag bubbles to pull people of gates exploit".
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#40 - 2013-12-06 23:08:14 UTC
Trillian Stargazer wrote:
this has to be the most pants on the head ******** thing CCP has done this year. punish players for taking advantage of other peoples mistakes. looking forward to the "using drag bubbles to pull people of gates exploit".



That's not what they're talking about.

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