Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Ok, we all know that while CCP has made hacking better (At least in my opinion), we also know that it could be improved. so let's brainstorm shall we? Iirc, Relic Sites are favored right now, so we need to give CCP ideas on how to improve Data Sites,... any ideas?

admittedly, the lootsplosion is annoying... and this is coming from someone who plays Borderlands, Diablo, and (my current fav) Path Of Exile, but the higher skill equals better reward is something I can get behind.

1) put something in the cans that would make hacking or analyzing worth the time spent

that's it

Best was I have read is;
1st attempt successful: Open can get loot.
1st attempt failed, 2nd attempt successful: loot spew.
2 failed attempts: Can goes Boom!

I'd much prefer to simply be able to open up the container and loot it. The loot spew mechanic sucks, and really makes no sense. I'd also say that overall loot quality needs to be improved. So many sites have little to nothing of value in them even in null sec.

I think the loot spew is also annoying, mainly because of scanning being a solo act.

When probes are taking into account, someone is loosing out when you operate as a pair.

Maybe if you could see other fleet probes or what they had scanned, it would make joint operations jointly profitable.

Thank you for pointing out the opinion of everyone who did exploration pre-incarna.

How to make all these sites better.

1. Add container effects
2. Randomize container effects
3. Add more types of loot to the sites (not necessarily the containers)
4. Adjust the container effects and loot depending on skill of the hack.
5. Failed hacks have a chance to start a timer similar to ghost sites. When the timer is up NPC's attack you. They don't blow up containers but they also don't run away.

Container effects could be anything from loot spew to an exploding container. Other ideas could be spawning of statis towers, decreased sig of the containers giving you longer lock times, false cargo scan readouts, counter hacking systems (upon hacking the container it will offline a module or two). Cargo scans can occasionally discovery these effects, as can checking the description of the container sometimes, but not every time.

Each container gets either zero or one effect (maybe a super low chance to have two)

The additional loot could make exploration a bit more self sufficient. Things like ammo, nano paste, minerals or even ship modules.

As for #4 this would depend on how many nodes you had to activate and how much health you have left after the hack. Orange nodes as well as items found while hacking could also affect this. The better you do the less the negative effects of containers. So if it explodes it does less damage. If it spews containers it would spew less and more loot would be in each, if it explodes it will do less damage ect. This will also affect loot drop.

Failing a hack would result in a randomized roll between 1-10, depending on the sec space you are in anywhere from 1 (high sec space) to 6 (Null/WH space) will be the numbers it could hit. In other words the lower the sec space you are in the higher chance you have of starting this timer on a failed hack. (10% chance in HS, 60% chance in null/WH)

If it hits on a number it starts a timer similar to ghost sites that call for reinforcements. These reinforcements are not horridly strong but enough to deter you from wanting to fail and enough to likely kill careless players in low/null and WH space or the totally oblivious players in HS.

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