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Character Name Changes

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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2013-12-06 01:15:53 UTC
Reiisha wrote:
EVE is a game of consequences, where reputation matters. Don't expect namechanges coming any time soon.


and yet you can change corps, change clothes, faces, ships, ship fittings... everything but the name you thought up at the character selection screen.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-12-06 01:21:50 UTC
What I would like, in addition to paid name changes, is to have any character that is sold to have its name reset. Cannibal Kane is selling his char. No one should be able to buy his reputation. If reputation and consequences matter, then when you buy a char you should get the skillpoints, not the reputation.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Sarmatiko
#43 - 2013-12-06 01:30:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
alot fo things are different in the chinese server, if i recall the galente federation doesnt even exist in lore there.

just because something is acceptable in one culture does not mean it is accepted in all cultures, chinese/korean MMOs have a long history of MT for the stupidest of little things, and people pay shittons for it, over there its become not common but EXPECTED business practice.

now you have the "western" EVE playerbase (sorry russians and japanese, possibly australians), who have for 10 eyars been absolutely apppaled at the idea of MT in EVE, and how MT-based games rarely do well voer long periods of time in western markets.

its just how it is, cultural differences lead to differences in business, thank god CCP is a western company.


Dude you're digging too deep. It's just an account service, nothing else. No need to involve "cultural differences" because you can find character name change in any western MMO released in last decade (WoW, Rift, GW2, UO, Daoc, AoC, you name it). With the change log implemented, there is no other strong arguments against this feature (excluding your personal bitterness of course).
Steve WingYip
Doomheim
#44 - 2013-12-06 01:53:58 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
Certain People like myself chose witty names that seemed really funny at the time, but now... not so much.

Would it be possible to generate a paid service for name changes?


Name changing would mess up the bounty hunting system, which is why it has not implemented. Don't pick silly names then.
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-12-06 02:08:25 UTC
Steve WingYip wrote:
Skill Training Online wrote:
Certain People like myself chose witty names that seemed really funny at the time, but now... not so much.

Would it be possible to generate a paid service for name changes?


Name changing would mess up the bounty hunting system, which is why it has not implemented. Don't pick silly names then.

Why should it mess up the bounty hunting system? Concord still knows who you are, even if you changed your name.

Your character ID wouldn't change.

The real downside is all the names you've had and all the names you choose get taken from the pool in perpetuity.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2013-12-06 06:41:01 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Except that there's no limit to how many new characters you can make. You could, for every account you have, make three new characters every ten hours if you really wanted to. I'm not sure if biomassed characters free up their names, but I'd be surprised if they did.

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Red Garsk
#47 - 2013-12-06 07:01:05 UTC
It would be nice to be able to change your character name, as long as it takes all your history into consideration, so if it changes for you, it should update your new name in people's character contact list and maybe add a name change history, so people can still see it's you with a new name.
DB Tank
Worcester Marauders
#48 - 2013-12-06 07:17:22 UTC
I like this idea

For me i returned to eve after a break and had to buy myself back into the game with regards to buying a new "toon".

Skills were what i was after but the name wasnt the best but skills had to come first ofcourse.


Had a few problems with its past over joinining new corps but people cannot look behind the corp history


For me common sense should have prevailed as i could post the forum where i bought it etc so if some one bought a toon they should be able to wipe its history or name /both.


Ofcourse that means people who are the scum bags of our world will use it to keep trying to do what they do best by being scum to other corps but again, common sense ... be tight on secruity and learn if you can trust said person or not, nothing is new, no one really knows if the person is scum or not just because the corp history is a mile long to someone only been in two corps..it could happen anytime to any one..its EVE Online afterall...

But its now nearly 2014 and the game has been going on since 2003. For people to look back on a person, ofcourse there bound to have some history as so much has changed over the years. corps come and go, alliances try and die..

I would happily pay to have my name changed
Reiisha
#49 - 2013-12-06 10:25:24 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
Reiisha wrote:
EVE is a game of consequences, where reputation matters. Don't expect name changes coming any time soon.

Already implemented by CCP for operator in China so don't be so sure.

Main services page: http://pay.tiancity.com/eve/Service/Main.aspx
Character Rename: http://pay.tiancity.com/eve/Service/RoleRenameMenu.aspx
Attribute remap: http://pay.tiancity.com/eve/Service/ResetAttribute.aspx


Tiancity does the operation of EVE in China, not CCP directly, due to political issues.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...

Sarmatiko
#50 - 2013-12-06 10:38:25 UTC
Reiisha wrote:
Tiancity does the operation of EVE in China, not CCP directly, due to political issues.

That was written in my post. Tiancity is only an operator, all internal stuff including account services developed by CCP.
Not to mention that new launcher with web authentication was first implemented for Serenity.
Treborr MintingtonJr
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#51 - 2013-12-06 10:38:37 UTC
If there was a Name History, surely the more a character changes their name, the less trustworthy they are...
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
Lost Obsession
#52 - 2013-12-06 10:40:40 UTC
Crumplecorn wrote:
Think of it as a helpful reminder that your actions have consequences.


This

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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
#53 - 2013-12-06 11:54:57 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
B-but... but... c-conse... oh nevermind.

Moreover even now, when we have "names with consequences" well-known corp thieves still successfully operate, people still use Mittani 3rd party supercap trading service (most trusted service in New Eden), awoxers with names like "Awox McBlueKiller" still.. awox. Bear Character name change wont remove trustful dummies from the game.


Is not what he was talking about.

Neither you nor the five other people whose thoughts you regurgitated actually understood what he was saying

How stupid

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#54 - 2013-12-06 12:18:57 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:

Already implemented by CCP for operator in China so don't be so sure.


The chinese server, serenity, is subject to a number of legal requirements that tranquility is not subject to, there are reasons products or serives will exist there but will not exist anywhere else, as CCP have mentioned numerous times when it comes to TQ the name you pick is final unless offensive, in which case it will get changed but not to something you will enjoy :P
Sarmatiko
#55 - 2013-12-06 12:28:19 UTC
Cypherous wrote:
The chinese server, serenity, is subject to a number of legal requirements that tranquility is not subject to, there are reasons products or serives will exist there but will not exist anywhere else, as CCP have mentioned numerous times when it comes to TQ the name you pick is final unless offensive, in which case it will get changed but not to something you will enjoy :P

Why are you trying to justify lack of (commonly widespread on western MMO market) service on Tranquility with some "legal obligations in China"?
There are no laws or obligations that can stop CCP from adding Character rename to their own game in Europe.
RaTTuS
BIG
#56 - 2013-12-06 13:48:41 UTC
threads like this makes me believe that CCP should implement
Plex for threads

there is the AKA thread that is still ongoing I think.

OP should just End themsleves

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Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#57 - 2013-12-06 14:32:43 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I'm not sure if biomassed characters free up their names, but I'd be surprised if they did.

They do, ive reused names from chars i deleted before on more than one occasion.

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Mr Pragmatic
#58 - 2013-12-06 15:58:05 UTC
I just want to change my last name on my main....cause it sucks and tons of other people have it.

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.

Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2013-12-07 03:40:27 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
alot fo things are different in the chinese server, if i recall the galente federation doesnt even exist in lore there.

just because something is acceptable in one culture does not mean it is accepted in all cultures, chinese/korean MMOs have a long history of MT for the stupidest of little things, and people pay shittons for it, over there its become not common but EXPECTED business practice.

now you have the "western" EVE playerbase (sorry russians and japanese, possibly australians), who have for 10 eyars been absolutely apppaled at the idea of MT in EVE, and how MT-based games rarely do well voer long periods of time in western markets.

its just how it is, cultural differences lead to differences in business, thank god CCP is a western company.


Dude you're digging too deep. It's just an account service, nothing else. No need to involve "cultural differences" because you can find character name change in any western MMO released in last decade (WoW, Rift, GW2, UO, Daoc, AoC, you name it). With the change log implemented, there is no other strong arguments against this feature (excluding your personal bitterness of course).

i addressed issues with a name change log in my other post.

how do you determine EXACTLY who ahd what name when, when multiple people could have the same name at different times, or barring that, how do you prevent literally every not stupid combination of letters from ebing taken as one chaarcter reserves more and more names over the years?
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2013-12-07 03:47:10 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Except that there's no limit to how many new characters you can make. You could, for every account you have, make three new characters every ten hours if you really wanted to. I'm not sure if biomassed characters free up their names, but I'd be surprised if they did.

Names are reusable from the account that first used them. But other than that, yes, you could do that. Most players don't, and I thought I remember reading somewhere that CCP frown on that sort of thing to the point that if you do it excessively it can earn you some time away from the game.

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