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Dal-Amara Furion
#41 - 2013-12-04 19:46:59 UTC
Again, for all those so willing to provide their insight and promise of a better tomorrow, thank you.

Live Pure, Speak the Truth, Right Wrongs, Be Fair and Be Just... This is not just God's will, this is your obligation to all Humanity.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#42 - 2013-12-04 20:03:16 UTC
Yes very refreshing... I have to refresh the market every second...
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-12-04 20:44:46 UTC
Don't worry. In a years time you will become a bitter vet.

You will hate other players.

You will hate the developers.

And you will hate this game.

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Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Fraternity.
#44 - 2013-12-04 21:30:53 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Don't worry. In a years time you will become a bitter vet.

You will hate other players.

You will hate the developers.

And you will hate this game.


LOL.. not true.. but you will probably find something that erks you, we all do..
Best advice I can give is join a really good corp with experienced players. Lots to do in eve and doing the same thing for a long time will turn you into a Captain Tardbar Blink
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#45 - 2013-12-04 22:49:23 UTC
Welcome to EvE!

On your stance of believing in the good of people, and bringing that to EvE. I can testify it is a good approach. Trust is a very powerful commodity in EvE and can get great benefits, as long as you are true to the trust people put in you. A note of warnong: don't be naieve, EvE can be very brutal at times.

That said, a nice rule to live by to make eve more interetsing is this *Trust people with what you can afford to loose* That way you can meet some unexpected friends simply because you trusted them (yes sometimes it will just turn out to be a dud, but then you also know that you can't trust that person in the future).

Also a note, if you go to lowsec and get shot, don't take it personal, can be it's someone defending his corp's system/claim, so not neceserily a pirate. When yo'ure safe, you can have a talk with people like this, several of them are actually very friendly and are willing to give tips to newer players entering lowsec

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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-12-05 01:56:33 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Don't worry. In a years time you will become a bitter vet.

You will hate other players.

You will hate the developers.

And you will hate this game.


LOL.. not true.. but you will probably find something that erks you, we all do..
Best advice I can give is join a really good corp with experienced players. Lots to do in eve and doing the same thing for a long time will turn you into a Captain Tardbar Blink


I don't know. I'm pretty sure I am the final product of what the EVE progression does to a player.

I mean ask the Titan pilots. That's all they basically do in the end.

Live in those coffins.

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Dal-Amara Furion
#47 - 2013-12-05 03:27:56 UTC
Interesting... very interesting. I hope I stay more optimistic =)

Live Pure, Speak the Truth, Right Wrongs, Be Fair and Be Just... This is not just God's will, this is your obligation to all Humanity.
Brendan Anneto
Gladiators of Rage
Fraternity.
#48 - 2013-12-05 05:40:25 UTC
Eve is a brutal place in general. But there are always people that are willing to help newbie players and show them the ropes.

I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your terror comes, When your terror comes like a storm, And your destruction comes like a whirlwind, When distress and anguish come upon you.   Proverbs 1:26-27
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#49 - 2013-12-05 06:09:13 UTC
Dal-Amara Furion wrote:

Also, if there are any good "Pirate hunting" guilds out there can anyone point me in the direction?


There is a lot of anti pirate corporations out there, so you should be able to find one fairly easily. If you read over this guide you will get some pointers on where to look, what to look for, and what to avoid.

Good luck Smile

Oh and as someone already mentioned but want to repeat.
They have already made the training times a lot kinder on new players (removal of learning skills being the biggest one in my opinion), and there is already ships a new player should not be able to fly that takes..what..2 weeks to fly? Orcas and similar.

Basically new players rush into big ships to fast, loose them due to lack of support skills and knowledge about the game, rage quits.
As others also have mentioned (many times) SP is really..overrated. A new player in a t1 frig can do some serious damage to an older player under the right circumstances Smile

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Aldebaran Aubaris
Free-lances
#50 - 2013-12-05 13:20:46 UTC
A pearl of wisdom: stay as far away from mining chat as you can, it will deflower your innocent demeanor faster than a six month stint in Burgaw prison.
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#51 - 2013-12-05 13:46:34 UTC
Dal-Amara Furion wrote:
The only complaint I do have are the training times, there is no reason to bore a new player to death. I'm sure this concept has ran many of players off. So I would ask for a reconsideration in this area and making the sensible move to more acceptable training times. ( In case any Dev's read this)
If you want to learn more about training times and how skills work in EvE, you really should read this blog. Training the basic skills is already quite fast, no need to speed it up even farther.
Don't despair if it looks mindbogglingly complicated at first, with the right planning and some thinking, in two to three months you can be able to shoot most players in the face and win. But as in life, there is no guarantee....Twisted

Anyway, welcome to EvE!

Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
Keno Skir
#52 - 2013-12-06 13:22:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
Training times are fine as they are (too short in some cases now). Amazing you started off saying how much you liked that you couldn't own on day 1, and ended by saying it was gonna take you too long to catch up and could someone pwees reduce training times.

Move along now.

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Mark Androcius
#53 - 2013-12-06 13:35:16 UTC
Not that i want to be mean or anything, but uhm.... loose the hoody, we already got enough Palpatine wannabe's :P

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2013-12-06 13:41:32 UTC
Dal-Amara Furion wrote:
This is my 1st post:

I've been gaming a long, long time and on top of that I'm a new player here at Eve Online.

What I find refreshing here and I've seen references in the forums here is the fact someone new simply just can't pick up the game and in 1 day start owning everyone in the game. I've played the crap out of FPS's and MMO's and there is nothing more detesting than having a beginner, level one, or other, start the game and kick the crap out of your seasoned character, no matter your level.

It is refreshing... here... the hierarchy of ships and weapons and that hierarchy is maintained. There is no shotgun sniper rifle, or a pistol that hits harder than a 50 caliber sniper rifle... this is great!!!

I do hope as I train up and eventually join the ranks of the higher players that this concept remains in tact. While everyone else is nerfing weapons to be equal, to the degree that it makes no sense, I hope it remains a fact here that not all weapons and ships are not equal. Simple rules of power do exist, you don't take a pee shooter to a machine gun fight, unless of course you are playing battlefield 2-3-4 or the Call of Duty games.

The only complaint I do have are the training times, there is no reason to bore a new player to death. I'm sure this concept has ran many of players off. So I would ask for a reconsideration in this area and making the sensible move to more acceptable training times. ( In case any Dev's read this)

Thanks again!



It only bores a new player to death if he has the wrogn metality.

There is a lot of fun in smaller ships. In fact most of the fun thigns are in smaller ships. Also this protects you from gettign buthurt and abandoning game after you lost a battleship on your 3rd week in game. You should reach more expensive ships only when you have minimal understanding of what you can or cannot do.


Within 1 month you can be useful oN PVP SP wise, but you will need several more months to have the mentality to have success on PVP. Of course, 50 M SP helps to be able to select a broader range of ships, but I must tell you, from someoen with 130M sp. Most of my fun in eve was when i Had under 10 M SP

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Dal-Amara Furion
#55 - 2013-12-06 15:01:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Dal-Amara Furion
@ Keno Skir

Your acumen is insightful and delightful! Will that be whiskey or gin with your Prozac? Sir, you are dismissed...


@ Mark Androcius

The hoodie stays, sorry but thanks for the input. My second character does not have a hoodie, I sure that will make you smile. =P


@ Kagura Nikon

A little rough around the edges but I understand what you are trying to say. I don't disagree with there being training times I merely find the time lengths somewhat daunting. ( i.e.15 days etc.) I'm fairly certain even a year from now if I'm still here, I will be of the same resolve.


Again, I do appreciate everyones great advice and direction!

Live Pure, Speak the Truth, Right Wrongs, Be Fair and Be Just... This is not just God's will, this is your obligation to all Humanity.
Mark Androcius
#56 - 2013-12-06 15:03:47 UTC
Dal-Amara Furion wrote:
@ Keno Skir

Your acumen is insightful and delightful! Will that be whiskey or gin with your Prozac? Sir, you are dismissed...


@ Mark Androcius

The hoodie stays, sorry but thanks for the input. My second character does not have a hoodie, I sure that will make you smile. =P


@ Kagura Nikon

A little rough around the edges but I understand what you are trying to say. I don't disagree with there being training times I merely find the time lengths somewhat daunting. I'm fairly certain even a year from now if I'm still here, I will be of the same resolve.


Again, I do appreciate everyone great advice and direction!


Hahaha, nah, you're cool dude, it's just a rant, i receive happiness or unhappiness for that matter, from the actions and doings of others, unless they do it in my name ( like the government does for example )

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Dal-Amara Furion
#57 - 2013-12-06 20:42:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Dal-Amara Furion
@ Mark Androcius

Lol, Suddenly I feel like I've just been tried and had...=)

Live Pure, Speak the Truth, Right Wrongs, Be Fair and Be Just... This is not just God's will, this is your obligation to all Humanity.
Northern Misfit
Far Mt Logistics
#58 - 2013-12-06 21:04:54 UTC
Treborr MintingtonJr wrote:

Just got tech 2 sentries the other day and it was like my birthday, I had been waiting for ages Cool
Skill Training Complete best words ever!!!

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Slymah
DorpCorp
#59 - 2013-12-07 01:10:29 UTC
I'm sure it's probably been covered (didn't read the thread) but I just wanted to point out to you that skill points are not the be all end all of EVE.

A vet with over a hundred million skill points still only uses those that are applicable to the ship/mods he is using at the time.

Meaning if you as a new player dedicate your points towards a specific ship/mod you will have the exact same applicable skill points as a veteran player.

You can only fly one ship at a time :)


Welcome
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#60 - 2013-12-07 02:46:34 UTC
I suppose skill points matter if you calculate everyone in the fleets skills points.

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