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Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#21 - 2013-12-05 22:12:04 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
[quote=Reiisha]I wonder if CCP still have that Monoclegeddon complex? Why else we still dont have those services on TQ? Ugh


Complex? CCP knows quite well that there's no such thing as bad PR. They probably have CCP Soundware somewhere deep cover on his next assignment to **** off the bittervets.
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-12-05 22:23:12 UTC
This feature would be great... so long as, right under your current name, we see your past names in the character history.

Name:
Hula Bob

Known aliases:
ImInUrPOS OffliningUrShields
Yodelheim Semolina
Awoxer SaysWhut
Skill Training Online

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But in purple, I'm stunning!
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#23 - 2013-12-05 22:37:13 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:
This feature would be great... so long as, right under your current name, we see your past names in the character history.

Name:
Hula Bob

Known aliases:
ImInUrPOS OffliningUrShields
Yodelheim Semolina
Awoxer SaysWhut
Skill Training Online

This is exactly what I was thinking...!!!

...
Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-12-05 23:01:56 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Ila Dace wrote:
This feature would be great... so long as, right under your current name, we see your past names in the character history.

Name:
Hula Bob

Known aliases:
ImInUrPOS OffliningUrShields
Yodelheim Semolina
Awoxer SaysWhut
Skill Training Online

This is exactly what I was thinking...!!!

Big smile I too considered naming my character Yodelheim Semolina but it didn't seem to fit.

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But in purple, I'm stunning!
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#25 - 2013-12-05 23:06:17 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
With public name change log (also available in China) you still have "consequences" and at the same time can finally fix typo in your name, change MACTEP to Master, etc etc. Mind-blowing, isn't it?
Not really on the consequences bit, forcing people to check your bio to find out who you really are would still be a very useful trick.

As for mind-blowing... not realising your character's name has a typo until you have invested significant skill points? That is mind-blowing.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-12-05 23:06:18 UTC
Consequence for the sake of consequence is pointless.
Having a public name change history is enough of a consequence.
There's really no reason to oppose this except for people's stubbornness.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#27 - 2013-12-05 23:16:58 UTC
Ila Dace wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Ila Dace wrote:
This feature would be great... so long as, right under your current name, we see your past names in the character history.

Name:
Hula Bob

Known aliases:
ImInUrPOS OffliningUrShields
Yodelheim Semolina
Awoxer SaysWhut
Skill Training Online

This is exactly what I was thinking...!!!

Big smile I too considered naming my character Yodelheim Semolina but it didn't seem to fit.

A Character in your.....position, I'd say Milktanks would be a better fit...

...
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#28 - 2013-12-05 23:23:35 UTC
EVE is Darwinism, right from character creation. Deal with the choices you made.
Bel Tika
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2013-12-05 23:32:19 UTC
Have a Character History, bit like Corporation History, problem solved
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-12-05 23:34:45 UTC
Bel Tika wrote:
Have a Character History, bit like Corporation History, problem solved

But muh consequences

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Sarmatiko
#31 - 2013-12-05 23:35:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
Crumplecorn wrote:
Sarmatiko wrote:
With public name change log (also available in China) you still have "consequences" and at the same time can finally fix typo in your name, change MACTEP to Master, etc etc. Mind-blowing, isn't it?
Not really on the consequences bit, forcing people to check your bio to find out who you really are would still be a very useful trick.

Majority of players simply dont give a damn about other players past. Were you a miner? Awoxer? Scammer? I don't care and I will forget you in no time.
Those who care about other players past (recruit officers and other creepy stalkers) WILL check name log by their own choice.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#32 - 2013-12-05 23:38:27 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Bel Tika wrote:
Have a Character History, bit like Corporation History, problem solved

But muh consequences

It shows up in your history...

If someone is stupid and fails to see this and gets scammed/awoxed, they deserved it!

...
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2013-12-05 23:38:31 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
Crumplecorn wrote:
Sarmatiko wrote:
With public name change log (also available in China) you still have "consequences" and at the same time can finally fix typo in your name, change MACTEP to Master, etc etc. Mind-blowing, isn't it?
Not really on the consequences bit, forcing people to check your bio to find out who you really are would still be a very useful trick.

Majority of players simply dont give a damn about other players past. Were you a miner? Awoxer? Scammer? I don't care and I will forget you in no time.
Those who care about other players past (recruit officers and other creepy stalkers) WILL check name log by their own choice.

B-but... but... c-conse... oh nevermind.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Kaahles
Jion Keanturi
#34 - 2013-12-05 23:46:33 UTC
Well... I get the consequences and reputation thingy I really do. Wouldn't really change my characters name however I got this alt... which has a really dumb one (I was young, stupid and needed the money)...

Not saying it has to be implemented but having say a once in a life time name change and the character sheet showing to your previous name somewhere would be a nice addition.
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#35 - 2013-12-05 23:54:00 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
B-but... but... c-conse... oh nevermind.
Well, I'm not that opposed to name changes really, it's just if someone comes along and says "my past self was unable to spell correctly / had **** taste in names" my natural reaction is "lol" not "let's call the CSM hotline and get name changes pushed through".

The only real objection I'd have is that it would cheapen the characters somewhat, in that they might lose a sense of identity and become little more than floating pots of SP with labels. Name changes seem 'gamey'. But, not everyone is going to care about that sort of thing.

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Sarmatiko
#36 - 2013-12-05 23:56:32 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
B-but... but... c-conse... oh nevermind.

Moreover even now, when we have "names with consequences" well-known corp thieves still successfully operate, people still use Mittani 3rd party supercap trading service (most trusted service in New Eden), awoxers with names like "Awox McBlueKiller" still.. awox. Bear Character name change wont remove trustful dummies from the game.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2013-12-06 01:01:04 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
Reiisha wrote:
EVE is a game of consequences, where reputation matters. Don't expect name changes coming any time soon.

Already implemented by CCP for operator in China so don't be so sure.

Main services page: http://pay.tiancity.com/eve/Service/Main.aspx
Character Rename: http://pay.tiancity.com/eve/Service/RoleRenameMenu.aspx
Attribute remap: http://pay.tiancity.com/eve/Service/ResetAttribute.aspx

I wonder if CCP still have that Monoclegeddon complex? Why else we still dont have those services on TQ? Ugh

Crumplecorn wrote:
Think of it as a helpful reminder that your actions have consequences.

With public name change log (also available in China) you still have "consequences" and at the same time can finally fix typo in your name, change MACTEP to Master, etc etc. Mind-blowing, isn't it?

alot fo things are different in the chinese server, if i recall the galente federation doesnt even exist in lore there.

just because something is acceptable in one culture does not mean it is accepted in all cultures, chinese/korean MMOs have a long history of MT for the stupidest of little things, and people pay shittons for it, over there its become not common but EXPECTED business practice.

now you have the "western" EVE playerbase (sorry russians and japanese, possibly australians), who have for 10 eyars been absolutely apppaled at the idea of MT in EVE, and how MT-based games rarely do well voer long periods of time in western markets.

its just how it is, cultural differences lead to differences in business, thank god CCP is a western company.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-12-06 01:04:31 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Consequence for the sake of consequence is pointless.
Having a public name change history is enough of a consequence.
There's really no reason to oppose this except for people's stubbornness.

except when everyone has 80 billion names over the years of their career, also, what happens when oen personw ants a anme someone else USED to have?

we either have single chaarcters taking up large amounts fo anmes, or we allow those names back into circulation adn we get presented with the issue of "okay, when did this event, perpetrated by character X, happen? because depending on that, it could have possibly been player W, Y, or Z."

so character identification would start to resemble old world lineage "I am X, previously Y, also known as Z, who was occasionally known as W, but only after playing as V"


so yes, there is a LOGICAL reason to NEVER allow name changes.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-12-06 01:07:51 UTC
Or you could just limit the amount of name changes to something reasonable. One per year, maybe.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Molson
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-12-06 01:15:28 UTC
I wouldn't mind if CCP delete names from old unused accounts.