Alliance & Corporation Recruitment Center

Hi guys,

First off, I'm going to warn you that this is going to be a bit of a read. Furthermore, I'll be blunt, if it isn't worth the time to you to read this, then your probably not someone I care to be speaking to anyways. By the end of this post, I'm sure you would understand why.

So to get the somewhat obvious stuff out of the way, I'm looking for an alliance that I can join. However, there is a catch. If your not in a position to so much as recommend one or share some intelligent input, you probably want to keep making your way through other threads and skip this one. I don't want to waste anyone's time.

First, let me start by telling you a little about myself. I started playing EVE back in 2005-ish and spread my time across about 3 characters. This one was later created to be my 'main' but throughout the course of time, that's been put on hold more than once or twice. Today, this is my only surviving character (consolidated and sold the others... I grew out of that multi-account crap) that I've stuck with throughout the years and has developed quite the legacy (but only from my point of view).

This post is going to take no small bit of honesty and forth coming on my part, so here goes. I've always been something of what is referred to as a "care bear". Fear of losing expensive ships and clones or the sum of considerable work (grinding) kept me out of low/null space for too long. This wasn't the case when I first started playing those many years ago, but that was because I didn't know any better. Ironically, I remember those as fun, risky and adventurous times.

So what have I been doing all these years? Well, I've tried various things. Too many to list here. And it boggles my mind to recollect these things and still realize that I haven't seen a damn thing. That is the purpose of this post, and what I am looking to resolve. More than anything throughout the years, I've been running missions, ratting, exploring, pretending like I can figure out how to do PI or make any worthwhile isk mining. Most exciting time branching out into something else? Well, that was probably the one whole week I spent in a wormhole with another corp, during which I never saw a single sleeper, and lost more ships to enemy corps on "the other side of the hole" than I could shake a stick at. Not very exciting, I know.

I'm getting to a point after these years where I'm starting (albeit EXTREMELY late) to realize just how bleak my future in this game looks if I don't get there and learn to enjoy and appreciate what lies beyond the bounds of PvE and high security space. So, I'm going to get right to the point. I'm looking for a suitable alliance that is not just willing to take me in, but is also willing to go the extra few steps to "break me in" to the other content that exists out there. I don't mean trying a little PvP here, doing an incursion there, screwing off in a wormhole for a bit, etc. Ok, well actually that ain't so bad, but the point I'm trying to make is that I'm looking for a crew that will not only 1) show you what to do, but more importantly to me 2) show you HOW to do it. This, is because I want the opportunities to understand the intricacies of these activities.

Time for more honesty. In RL I have ADHD. Don't worry, I'm not some over-hyped 14 year old kid bouncing off the walls giving everyone around me a bad day. Today, I'm a 30 year old fella, married, have a son, and currently in school. I'm fairly average, with one exception. It takes me a little longer to learn things and pick them up. I learn through repetition (and this can be a really good thing), and as a sort of side effect, I naturally strive to excel at those things I set out to do. A doctor who knew anything about ADHD would call this “hyper-focusing”. It's the reason people with cases of ADHD like mine play games like this. It scratches that “itch".

Now, if you've read this far and are "ok" with these things, your probably asking yourself how the hell it would be worth anyones time to help someone learn the game like this. Or, maybe I'm over-analyzing that. There are corporations and probably many other individuals out there to help others get into the game and learn it's many aspects. For a character 7-ish years old, I think my employment history speaks for itself. I'm a bit of a loyalist, I like to make lasting friends and relationships and become part of something larger than myself. This is what I hope makes it worth all the time it took reading this post, whoever you are.

I'm not looking to join a corporation (I like the one I'm in, no drama, and affords some beneficial flexibility) or just run around lollygagging asking questions all day in help channels and praying something will happen. I'm looking for an alliance with quite a bit to offer. Perhaps one that does quite a bit of a few different things (PvE and/or PvP, wormholes, incursions, low or null sec life, whatever!). But, here is where I have to draw the lines. I'm not in the least bit interested in piracy. I'm not talking about roaming null looking for a fight or hunting lowlifes in low sec. No, I'm talking about intentionally annihilating and taking advantage of other players who really had no real interest in a conflict to begin with just to grief them and hijack thier loots. Yeah, don't care for that. Also, I'm a bit of an organized player and can appreciate using voice comms to stay organized and keep in touch with eachother, so that is also something I'm looking for.

Impressive text-wall sir (Yes read it all). As a lover of text walls you've succeeded in arousing me.

Wish I could help, but it seems not.

Best of luck finding an Alliance, Mr Nor'Fein!

Thank you for your response and the well wishes.



This has been my general experience in the past. I've been involved with 2 alliances in the past that operated in null, but I was never able to get a grasp on things beyond PvE and I spent 90% of my time running combat sites. There were daily small gang roams (and the less frequent large fleet roams) but I never got into them because 1) beyond the ship I bring with me, I'm not sure how to stock up on ships and modules when there's no real trade hubs to speak of, and 2) I have very little knowledge of PvP so I guess I've been kind of put off by the idea of just hurling myself out of the hangar in whatever I've strapped myself to with the intention of looking for a fight. No doubt, this is probably how you learn, but I don't know how to judge other players intentions. I remember doing this once however, and ran into an interceptor pilot. A couple of minutes I woke up back in high sec, lol.

I'd like to learn some PvP one of these days, but I'd like to have some kind of idea what I'm doing in the first place. I'll probably always be more PvE oriented, so I'd like PvE content to be at least some of the focus of whatever alliance I do join (just talking about coming together for the occasional expedition or sanctums or w/e. Never fought sleepers before, but would like to one of these days). Anything these days is better than the millions of level 4 missions I've run. You mentioned low sec, which is where I started out. My experience from low and null tells me that those are both VERY different styles of living, so I know whichever I end up in, I'll have to acclimate appropriately. I'm not against living in a wormhole either, but I want it to be worth my while, and I don't want to be alone all the time.

Lastly, I hear you regarding the 1 man corp, and I understand completely. Throughout all my characters over the years, I've been in quite a few corps. To be perfectly honest, it just isn't for me. I created this corporation primarily for my character and for my brother and friends who come and go from time to time (and are MUCH less active these days anyways). Bottom line, I've had enough of corporate life. Don't care for the drama or the other things that come with it. Alliance life however affords any corporation, 1 man or thousands to be part of a brotherhood at a different level. Think of the difference between having the most annoying person in the world as your next door neighbor, or instead having him in the general neighborhood, does that make any sense? lol. I won't lie, I've had bad experiences in the past with corporate politics, and I enjoy a more simple life away from things like ass kissing, making rank, and finding out who in the hell stole what from the corp hangar. The reason I seek an alliance, is to be a part of that brotherhood that I desire, but without all that drama. I don't have time for that bull@#$%, and just want to have fun with others, whether it's just goofing off, or engaging in more serious matters. This is something that I hope an alliance out there will understand. And if not, well, at least I tried and things in the universe will just keep on spinning.

It's posts like this that I had hoped (futile, I know...) to avoid. Before you open your mouth, be sure you know what your talking about. In other words, be in possession of the facts. First of all, I never asked to join a PvP alliance, I simply expressed an interest in learning more about PvP (and if it goes somewhere, great!). In fact, I'm looking for an alliance (if even just an active handful of people) that does more than just PvP all day long, and engages in other content. Secondly, when did I ever say that my corporation was a carebear corp? It is true that I've focused heavily on PvE in the past (and still somewhat do), and if you want to persist in your ignorance, it would be more accurate to call ME the carebear, NOT a corporation. Also, it insinuates that "carebearing" is the sole purpose of the corporation, and that is where I feel you are most gravely mistaken. If that were the case, said corporation's leader certainly wouldn't be here looking to join an alliance so that he (and his corporation) can engage in activities outside of just PvE.

You know, I use the forums very rarely, but I really shouldn't be surprised when it feels akin to walking into a zoo full of adolescent teenagers. Thank you to all who have messaged/mailed me so far. Still looking!

Edit: Oh yes, and FYI, this was a one man corp in the last alliance I was in. It CAN and DOES happen, nor am I the only one. Unfortunately, my experience with null sec boredom also stems from this past associative experience. :(

I got your evemail, thanks. I haven't responded to it because, to be quite honest, I have no idea how to (Edit: I mean "what to say". Not how to actually send an evemail"). I'm looking for an alliance where I can learn and do several things. I hadn't thought about just running with someone else, and I don't really want it to take away from the focus of what I want to accomplish here. I'm not against the idea of meeting up and learning a bit about PvP, but it's not the ONLY thing that I want to do, and there in lies my confusion and hesitancy. I'm in a particularly intense course in school right now so I don't know how much time I would have to seriously dedicate some time to it right now. This is one reason why it's good to have options. Can't invest a couple to a few hours to do Option A? No problem, do Option B! (like tackle a sanctum or lollygag in some asteroid belts) Anyways, if you would, send me another EVE mail when you have the time and help me understand how this idea of yours would work. That would help me tremendously. Thanks again for taking the time.

Sounds good, I'll try to get you in-game and see what we can do. Been speaking to a couple of alliance representatives in game, but none of them have 100% come through yet. Still looking for a good fit.

I feel the need to clarify that I am NOT looking for an alliance to 'hold my hand' or anything. I'm waaaay too old for that @#$%. I'm just looking for an environment where I can ask the occasional question and seek guidance, and be afforded the opportunities to explore other game content with others.