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Golem null-PVE (Rubicon)

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Morugnir
Shell from Hell
Verged
#1 - 2013-12-03 13:16:21 UTC
Hi there!

How to fit my Golem for carebearing in angels null-sec?
So my targets: Sanctums, expeditions and 8/10, 9/10, 10/10.
Best way to do it solo, but for x/10 i'll call my friends.

I have fit, but i need corrections.
high: 4 Т2 torp or 4 Т2 cruise
mid: invul, 2 hardners, LSB, MJD, 2 TP
low: 4 balcon

I dont like low dps on cruise and low range on torps, so cant choose one of them Roll
And not sure bout tank - do i need Damage control? or maybe replace hardners for one more invul and add one more TP?

Discuss plz

Let the butthurt flow through you...

Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#2 - 2013-12-03 13:26:49 UTC
cruise fury.

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Adeena Torcfist
Right Hand Of The Legion.
Get Off My Lawn
#3 - 2013-12-03 13:46:28 UTC
cruise fury are far from low DPS. Personally, i'd go with 2 invuls ( or even 3 ) plus an EM, along with ur XL booster, ( mine of choice is the Ancilliary ) Bastion module, TP ( or 2, tho, not really needed ) as you can still insta-pop crusiers, plus your 4 ballistics in your lows.

Should you get ganked, at least you can hold out the fight till your friends arrive, or worse yet, be unjammable ( lol ) & start popping their tacklers Cool

1 EM & 3 CN invuls, with bastion gets:

EM 88%
Th 87%
Kin 88%
Ex 89%

& we all know what gankers may "think" what your hole is :)
Morugnir
Shell from Hell
Verged
#4 - 2013-12-03 13:55:12 UTC
Adeena Torcfist wrote:
cruise fury are far from low DPS. Personally, i'd go with 2 invuls ( or even 3 ) plus an EM, along with ur XL booster, ( mine of choice is the Ancilliary ) Bastion module, TP ( or 2, tho, not really needed ) as you can still insta-pop crusiers, plus your 4 ballistics in your lows.


Yeah, of cource bastion included in my fit, just forget bout it.

Near 1000 dps with cruise so far from 1390 with torps.

EM+3 invul + XLSB = overtanked, dont you think so?
One TP enouth? not sure...

Let the butthurt flow through you...

Adeena Torcfist
Right Hand Of The Legion.
Get Off My Lawn
#5 - 2013-12-03 18:50:09 UTC
overtanked? not really. 1 RF TP works fine. tho saying that, i do have a Rigor rig fitted.

you maybe glad of the overtank one day Lol

You could even fit a Large neut to disable HIC's for the lulz looking for a quick kill

allways expect the unexpected, especially when jumping back tho gates to station to drop off your goodies Cool
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-12-03 19:28:40 UTC
Mobile depot to house your pvp escape:
• MJD
• warpstabs
• neutralizers
Mobile depot to fit between torps and cruises.

Rage torps for anom bashing, cruises for x/10. You can solo the x/10s easily with bastion and MJD. You might want a scout, though. Travel fit mjd + inertia stabs + warp stabs + cloak.

Range rigs t1 to start off. If you can work ring sanctums with rage torps never encountering wasted time due to range, then swap to rigor II's as you get there.
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-12-03 19:31:00 UTC  |  Edited by: The Spod
The dps difference partially comes from implants. 1390 is maxed rage, 1000 is non implanted fury. However, rage is better so go with it for anom nom nom.
Morugnir
Shell from Hell
Verged
#8 - 2013-12-04 06:05:34 UTC
tnx for good answers

So neutralizers, torps, one TP and XLSB+2-3 invul and hardner.
Not so cheap... more than 5kkk only for tank. But sweet =)

Let the butthurt flow through you...

The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-12-04 10:14:48 UTC
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/68506-My-Rubicon-Golem.html

Try that, swap to 2 invul. No need for faction paints or tank, t2 tank is good.
Morugnir
Shell from Hell
Verged
#10 - 2013-12-04 13:29:55 UTC
And now my final test fit i'll try of:

High:
4x Torpedo Launcher II
Salvager II
Small Tractor Beam II
Bastion Module I
Ammatar Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer

Mid:
Large Micro Jump Drive
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pith X-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
2x Target Painter II

Low:
4x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Rigs:
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II

Implants: Zainou set

Stats:
DPS 1390 Rage / 926 Javelin
Range 46.8 Rage / 84.2 Javelin
Resistance (shield) 62.8% - 77.7% - 92.2% - 92.5%
EHP 91.9k omni - 141k angels
Defence 1290 EHP/sec omni - at 2400 EHP/sec angels
Capacitor 3m 4s all on / 13m 21s all shields and TP on / stable 77% SB off

Let the butthurt flow through you...

The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-12-04 20:32:33 UTC
Morugnir wrote:
And now my final test fit i'll try of:

High:
4x Torpedo Launcher II
Salvager II
Small Tractor Beam II
Bastion Module I
Ammatar Navy Heavy Energy Neutralizer

Mid:
Large Micro Jump Drive
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pith X-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Pith X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
2x Target Painter II

Low:
4x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System

Rigs:
Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II

Implants: Zainou set

Stats:
DPS 1390 Rage / 926 Javelin
Range 46.8 Rage / 84.2 Javelin
Resistance (shield) 62.8% - 77.7% - 92.2% - 92.5%
EHP 91.9k omni - 141k angels
Defence 1290 EHP/sec omni - at 2400 EHP/sec angels
Capacitor 3m 4s all on / 13m 21s all shields and TP on / stable 77% SB off


Tank is overdone and resistance profile is not optimal.

TLDR: 2 invul fields (t2 is enough) and EM hardener (t2 is enough) with XL booster.

Long version: tank against specific spawns to cut the expenses. There are bottleneck spawns you need to be able to handle, and these consist of two BS types as the primary damage source: angel cherubim (thermal) and angel seraphim (EM). Everything else is trivial, and explosive amounts to 40-50% of all incoming damage. The optimal shield hardening for angels is thus: EM > THERM > EXP > KINETIC, and invul's do it best except for the EM hole.

The above setup handles 10/10 bastion facetank by inserting an additional EXP hardener. The above setup makes sanctums trivial and handles them without bastion, though you want to use it for torpedo range or go cruises.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#12 - 2013-12-06 20:03:05 UTC
That over-tank can and has saved my ratting Raven. Got tackled by 3x AFs on a gate and managed to force them all off just as my tank modules were starting to show a little too much heat damage.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#13 - 2013-12-06 20:47:08 UTC
mwd torp golem with lots of painters for anoms
fury cruise golem with MJD for plexes.

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-12-10 09:56:19 UTC
Adeena Torcfist wrote:
cruise fury are far from low DPS. Personally, i'd go with 2 invuls ( or even 3 ) plus an EM, along with ur XL booster, ( mine of choice is the Ancilliary ) Bastion module, TP ( or 2, tho, not really needed ) as you can still insta-pop crusiers, plus your 4 ballistics in your lows.

Should you get ganked, at least you can hold out the fight till your friends arrive, or worse yet, be unjammable ( lol ) & start popping their tacklers Cool

1 EM & 3 CN invuls, with bastion gets:

EM 88%
Th 87%
Kin 88%
Ex 89%

& we all know what gankers may "think" what your hole is :)



Why the hell so much tank? 1 EM 1 CN INvul and oGB shoudl sufice...

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