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Quitting... The Gambler's Fallacy and Original Sin

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Kris Xavier
C5 Flight
Fraternity.
#61 - 2013-12-04 10:32:34 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Kris Xavier wrote:


Because you are speaking aloud, and i'm staring in through your windows.



Considering what else is going on in here, I think its highly irresponsible that you haven't called the police yet


I Only need one hand to type.
You would be surprised what i get 'kicks' out of.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#62 - 2013-12-04 10:35:22 UTC
Kris Xavier wrote:


I Only need one hand to type.
You would be surprised what i get 'kicks' out of.


I think I will communicate telepathetically with you too


See what Im doing now?


Fancy cleaning up the mess?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Kris Xavier
C5 Flight
Fraternity.
#63 - 2013-12-04 10:42:35 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Kris Xavier wrote:


I Only need one hand to type.
You would be surprised what i get 'kicks' out of.


I think I will communicate telepathetically with you too


See what Im doing now?


Fancy cleaning up the mess?


Give me 5 minutes.
I am'busy'
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#64 - 2013-12-04 10:56:56 UTC
Kris Xavier wrote:


Give me 5 minutes.
I am'busy'


Its ok, the shuddering a nerve-death will have ceased by then

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#65 - 2013-12-04 11:11:47 UTC
Samael Pserad wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Gotta ask, what ship were you wanting to fly that takes a whole year of skilling for?

My go-to ship for PeeVeePee is typically Hurricane. Sometimes I'll throw down in a Scythe for frig fun roams. Neither took over a year to skill into.


I thinks, this complaint is less a "skillpoints" issue and more a "skill" issue.
Anyway, best of luck finding a game you fit better.


You win the math fail of year award if you think 4 million SP has a chance against 20 million. But maybe you're just a complete dumb dumb.


Read, learn, understand, be happy.

Tippis' Rants - The newbie Skillplan 2.0

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Treborr MintingtonJr
S.N.O.T
S.N.O.T.
#66 - 2013-12-04 11:15:34 UTC
Bye bye and thanks for all the fish.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#67 - 2013-12-04 11:22:41 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:


500mil isk says this guy's close personal 'friend' got to know how carebear he was, got close and personal and ganked him repeatedly with alts until he wanted to quit in order to claim his assets.

I could bet 10 million against that, but then I'd be completely broke xD.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Tolum Vanmeer
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#68 - 2013-12-04 11:27:18 UTC
OP isn't complaining that he died. And that's why he's calling people illiterate.

Quote:
However, after careful consideration, I realized that, not only is it really not worth waiting around for a year for, it's also a huge waste of real life money that I could be spending on MMO's that don't suck by being unwilling to reward active playing of the game.

That's what he's complaining about in a short quote. Paying €15/month for a game that doesn't asks to be played or rewards when it is played.
Everyone knows (he too I think) it's possible for a very focused character to have a chance against others. But that still doesn't mean it's worth his €15/month to have such a limited character while the competition asks less with more freedom what you want to do with your character.
There's even games like Rift who don't ask any money and allow you to switch roles with only 3clicks so that you can adapt to what you want to play or what your group of people need you to play. In EVE he could do the same but he'd have to spend a few hundreds of € in alts. He doesn't see a reason anymore to pay so much money for one game while other games can give the same or more for less.

So all you jokers in this thread may find it fun to pay multiple alts, idle around in low/null sec and look at a skill bar blinking every second. But OP doesn't and I don't see why you need 4pages and still fail to read what he said.
Competition gives games for lower prices, games with a more content and games with a lot harder PvP. That's why EVE has bad subs compared to the number of people who want to love the game. The number of people that trial the game because they love the promise but quit after seeing what's given, is dramatic.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#69 - 2013-12-04 11:31:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Tolum Vanmeer wrote:
But that still doesn't mean it's worth his €15/month to have such a limited character while the competition asks less with more freedom what you want to do with your character.



If he or you believe that the above is in any way a fact

then the four pages of calling him an idiot are COMPLETELY justified

Dont Do What Donnie Dont Does

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#70 - 2013-12-04 11:32:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Jint Hikaru
Less than 2 month old character [Imperial Academy [IAC] from 2013.10.19] rage quits because he does not have the same skillpoints as someone who has played much longer. ShockedLolLol

Quote:
The skill training queue in this game is about the most foolish implantation I've seen in an MMO

Hahahahaaaa!!!! Enjoy the constant grind and playing 24/7 in your next MMO to catch up with the people who've been playing longer than you.

I hope you find a game that is more suited to your tastes. Because Eve is obviously not the game for you!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#71 - 2013-12-04 11:34:34 UTC
8 week old character quits the game. Alright then. Nothing to see here, move along.
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#72 - 2013-12-04 11:37:32 UTC
Top lel

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#73 - 2013-12-04 11:40:54 UTC


Hory sheet.

This has to be a troll, no way can anyone be this vitriolic and actually mean it. It’s a game for fucks sake.

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -  D. Adams.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#74 - 2013-12-04 11:41:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Samael Pserad wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Wait. You managed to get several billion of assets but didn't get over the training times? You know, with that amount of ISK you could have just bought yourself a PvP character on the Bazaar!


Meh... I don't like how you people design characters. They all look like **** supersoldier Silvester Stallone wannabes.


Resculpting a character with only some of those billions you gave away? ... would not have cost you billions

Thank me later :D
Progeny Soames
Doomheim
#75 - 2013-12-04 11:44:08 UTC
There's a certain type of player in Eve; everyone in 0.0 will have seen him.

They constantly run PvE sites by themselves, never go on corp. ops, never engages with the team unless he wants something

His requests are numerous; can he get his stuff out to 0.0; can he have a ship; can he have ammo; can he have access to corp. hangar; can he be rescued again from npcs that have him scram'ed.

Then one day, that guy tries to run his stash of fat-loot back to empire, usually in a t1 Hauler and usually at peak time. Two gates into a fifty jump journey he's nobbled by a lone Kestrel and his base stupidity is an embarrassment to the corp; sometimes he's warned, sometimes he's fired.

To the guy, this just adds insult to injury. Wah! Not only did he lose his stuff, the team which didn't help him be stupid has the bare faced cheek to give him a bit of a ticking off too!

In order to justify his idiocy to himself, the guy then goes on a rant about how everyone in eve is a horrid beast, the game mechanics are faulty and the company that has run the game successfully for a ten year period is a laughing stock in game dev world. Feeling 10ft tall after telling everyone what he thinks, guy quits.

A few hours after quit thread goes onto page 2, everyone forgets him.

But if he's lucky, a few years later, whilst gate camping or mining and in amongst the chit-chat and banal banter that stems from a few hours of mundane activity, someone in the TS will say, " Hey! Do you remember that guy, what's his name? Lost 20 bill's worth of pirate loot in a Hoarder? Came onto TS, screeching and at one point was actually crying!"

Lots of laughing ensues and even the new guy who wasn't around at the time will go, "Har Har! What an absolute truncheon!", before going off to solo rat in a juicy anom he scanned down an hour back.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#76 - 2013-12-04 11:45:49 UTC
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote:


Resculpting a character with only some of those billions you gave away? ... would not have cost you billions


Or even free if its not been done to that toon.

No, theres something not right about the OP and Im not just talking about how stupid this thread is

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#77 - 2013-12-04 12:00:40 UTC
Tolum Vanmeer wrote:
the competition asks less with more freedom what you want to do with your character.
My sides have departed the galaxy

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Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#78 - 2013-12-04 12:20:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ursula Thrace
Samael Pserad wrote:
People love to announce they're leaving Eve, and I'm happy to join the club. The skill training queue in this game is about the most foolish implantation I've seen in an MMO. To achieve reasonable revenge against those who repeatedly gank you, you just have to hold off for a year until you have the skills to fly a ship of moderate caliber against those who go after you. I finally realized that waiting a year was not worth it. I don't mind PvP games, I've enjoyed them when they're about skill or done in a balanced environment. Eve provides the opposite of a balanced environment and one gets sick of never being able to punish people who agress you for no reason. I also don't really consider ganking my industrial as I put through low-sec or what not as "PvP" so much as "Pv." I figured no big deal, I would train blockade runner. Then I realized I had to spend a month training that and that's a month I can't dedicate to combat skills or anything else. That's right, I have to give CCP $20 and wait a whole month just to make my character capable of running away.



OP, i'm sorry you've decided to leave eve, but i think you've missed a key point of this game. if some group or individual ganks you, team up with other people and go after them. that's the point of a MMO - to work in groups. in doing this, you'll not only have back up for pvp, you'll learn more about the game and it's intricacies and in the process, meet some entertaining folks.

as far as the whole "i'm a noob and can't compete" argument, it simply does not hold water. a brand new pilot can train skills that will make him/her viable in combat in a few days. this avatar is 4+ years old and i spend a lot of time flying frigates and tackling - because it's fun!

i would urge you not to give up, but try and find a group to work with. you could always join us.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#79 - 2013-12-04 12:22:51 UTC
Ursula Thrace wrote:


i would urge you not to give up, but try and find a group to work with. you could always join us.



Agreed

Alternatively, if anything I have said has annoyed you, join those Blue guys

And come and get some!

My skills are terrible, and even a three week noob stands a good chance against me!

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Moneta Curran
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2013-12-04 12:29:20 UTC

The worst part of these silly threads is that the OP rarely if ever returns to defend his ill-informed perspective.
How are we to know that he has faced our scathing ridicule? This is deeply unsatisfying.