Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Made me smile.

Mining is boring - we've established this. There is absolutely no need to constantly reiterate this fact. Mining is boring, that's why i have a "mining alt" and not a "mining main".

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OP, the problem is books: you must have a book injected to train it.

Otherwise CCP has to allow placing books in the queue. That leads to an even more complex problem of removing books from the queue: example, what if you are in a pod. Also book smuggling.

Learn to EVEMon

Honestly it's not difficult to plan a skill queue when you know what you want to do.

Here's a hint, always put in the skills you NEED to train at the front of the queue to meet any pre-requisites of skills further down the queue. ie you want to train Mining Barge, the first skills you train are the ones like Industry, Science, Mining, Mining Frigate, then you can move on to Astrogeology and Mining Barge - that way the pre-requisites are already trained before it's an issue.

Let me start by mentioning how amused I am by the amount of moronic spew in this thread. Actually most threads. Must be the season of anger or something.

As to the OP. It is a good idea in theory and would certainly make the game easier for the players. The problem is that it would be a nightmare to code for the relatively small benefit it would provide.

But really, just go to sleep and let the skill run out. Then inject the one you want when you wake up. A few hours of an inactive queue is not worth having an episode over. There are a lot more important things to get wound up about than getting palpitations because your skill training is paused for a few hours.

Mr Epeen

Really, I see no reason why this couldn't be done.

In Evemon, if you drop a skill you haven't got the prerequisites to into the list, it pops up an information box telling you it is also adding in those prerequisites. Likewise, if you remove a skill that is a prerequisite to another in the list, it pops up an information box saying its also removing the skills that require that skill. Can't imagine that adding this feature would be too hard.

The obvious barrier is the book system as has been mentioned before. But personally, I don't see a problem with allowing the injection of books that you can't train - it should definitely pop up a warning box informing you that you can't train this skill yet, giving you a chance to change your mind, and the skill could then appear red in the skill list, as a reminder. But in principle, being forced to leave books lying around til you've trained the skill doesn't add much to the game (it would likely reduce the amount of skillbooks being carried in cargo, and therefore ganked, but I doubt many people buy skills too far ahead of time, and if they do, they probably keep them where they buy them).

To be honest, I've run in to this myself as well. Can't inject and queue a skill because the prerequisite is the skill that's about to finish. It used to bother me, now I realize it's just a game, and missing out on 4 hours of training time isn't the end of the world. Back in the day, we didn't have a training queue at all. You had to physically change it every single time. Consider yourself lucky. :)

In all seriousness. What you did is what most people would do. Just queue something from the same attribute mapping, that's further down your skill plan. You can always inject the skill when you get up.

great idea!

also I would like the option to star or highlight skills on my list that I need to train, preferably with some kind of numbering. Not talking about adding to queue beyond 24hr, just something to help me remember what I said to myself I should queue last time I logged in

/signed to this and OP's suggestion.

A built in planner in general would be amazing instead of relying on external tools.

Because we just got through the awesome change where the prerequisite test was performed on injection rather than training. This is what allowed them to do the whole tiercide and skill rebalance without screwing up what people could and could not train or fly.

The current rule is simple: if you have it injected, you can train it. It no longer matters what your other skills look like or if you've been mass-ganked back to 900k SP or if the DB forgot all numbers larger than 10 — injected = trainable; checking for prereqs is a one-time thing and you've passed that test, it's done for good. If you want to be allowed to inject skills without being able to train them, they have to uproot that whole system and create something that is probably a lot less robust and elegant in its design.

…all that to solve the “problem” of people not wanting to pad their queue with a different skill while they wait for a prereq to finish. I prefer the cleanness and security of the current system over that insignificant convenience, tbh.

Skill books are being carted around all the time, and reducing the reasons and opportunities to lose them is a bad thing.