Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Its more a matter of what it COSTS I would agree that the current iteration is not WORTH 2.2B

I would really like the SoE ship line changed to boats with +50% drone effectiveness as their role bonus. All of them drop the turrets and just be a line of 'utility high' ships. Having that theme across the entire line of hulls would make them unique within the ship lines, more then that though I feel all these bonuses should be drones only, and only the base +50% galante bonus would apply to sentries. That would give the SoE line the distinction of being primarily DRONE drone boats, leave sentry to things like the domi/ishtar.

This way the Nestor gets drone damage and heavy drone tracking/velocity, you can sentry if you want to, but its primary setup would be flying in, webbing targets while dpsing with just the heavy drones while being in range to remote rep them as required.

I'm thinking it'll look great in a hangar though

buying hull outright @ 3k/LP from The Sanctuary: 800k * 3k + 80mil = 2.48B

" " " " the BPC: 400k * 3k + 100mil = 1.3B

as for the build cost and whatnot, i have no idea, but 3k/LP is a pretty good baseline as long as other SOE items net 3k/LP

what am I missing here

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would that remote repair bonus apply to cap transfer.... and neuts/nos? or strictly shield/armor transfers

Hello CCP Rise!

As a regular incursion runner in a logi ship, I would take added range over amount every single time. Reasoning: no matter how much you repair for, it is worthless if your target is out of the repping range.
That said, I also think rep range is more important in PvP, since PvE content is more predictable and players can position themselves prior an encounter and/or know what to expect most of the time. PvP is a lot more 'volatile' and 8k4 rep range is nowhere near enough since your rep targets can have different purposes on a battlefield and easily fly(or be bumped) away from you. As an example, carriers would be valued a lot less(in both PvP and PvE) if they had no rep range bonuses.



Is it unreasonable(=overpowered) to ask for both? As I stated above, I would always take rep range over the extra amount, but on the other hand, if it was just an extra range, would the ship repair for enought to be considered fit for the role?

I would love to see both range and amount, to keep the ship viable as a logi platform given the high expected cost. How about an extra range and reduced remote armor repair cycle(instead of flat +%amount)? Reduced cycling would put extra pressure on capacitor, forcing players to make trade-offs. Even if it means loosing for example virus strength bonus, which I view as useless for the current exploration sites content. Stratios / T3s can already run exploration sites(including ghost ones) with great success and Nestor seems to be too expensive and slow for this role.



To be fair and taking a step back, Nestor looks like a ship that is trying to be useful in many situations (wormholes, logistics, exploration sites, laser turret combat) and ending up being good at none of them.
For wormholes, it can't fit covert ops cloak and doesn't have black ops cloaked speed bonus, making it an easy target. Also only armor resistance bonuses limits Nestor to armor tanking focused wormholes.
For logistics, the lack of range will cause a lot of frustration and lost ships, since it's too easy to drift away from 8km range.
For exploration sites, the ship is too bulky and slow (=low warp speed, align time or just a battleship velocity, given how far away containers are in both Data and Relic sites) and less expensive ships, Stratios and T3s, can perform better.
Laser turret damage seems redundant since the ship can already fit a full fleet of bonused sentries/heavy drones as the main source of damage. It would go a long way if the laser turret damage was replaced with remote shield repair amount and range bonus.

CCP Rise,

this is yet another ship with Magnetometic sensors. This is already shared with the Serpentis and ORE factions. Which in turn makes the Magnetometric Sensor Comp skill more valuable than the other Comp skills. Possible to make it Radar instead. (it will also annoy falcon pilots).

Rep bonus needs to be removed.

also, it should have a 7H 5M 7L or 7H 6M 7L or 7H 5M 8L layout.

Either 7H 5M 7H, or 6H 6M 7L, no 8 low and no adding more then there is already to the slots.

So tell me, what situation is a battleship the idea scanner?

Ever.

Already has been said. I agree with the 500%

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Personally, I love the ship- it's very unique and I'd love to fly it.

But to each their own, I suppose