EVE New Citizens Q&A

at start good morning all...i want to share my little experience so far (1 month and 8 days) with other new players around here who might have problems with that too.
Now about my topic, i laugh to death when i see people 4-5 years of playing to try to ninja loot-salvage a wreck while i run my lv 4 missions at high sec and for sure i feel pity for them .
the trick is to not allow a poor ninja-thief to even try to lock a wreck of yours... how is possible?
simple like this... jump in the mission beacon, check the npc groups locations (a quick look at survival site before really helps),
align your ship's position to be in fire range at all groups and consider the move of npc's to surelly pass as approaching you through the mission's beacon as close as possible ,make the 100 km jump stop your ship, deploy the mobile tractor and start the massacre...
eventually when a ninja scan you and warp to you, he will land in the beacon and if you did all the previous things right he will be in the middle of a minefield, resulting 90% of the times to try to warp out asap .
now as we speak ninja guys-gals if after 5 years of game you continue to be poor thief and leave in high sec trying to loot 500-600k from a wreck maybe this game isnt good for you...try wow or aion.

p.s. the moment you see the thief land in your mission lock him and wait ,if he got aggroed the npc's and still try to loot a wreck and turn yellow is very nice to snipe him to pieces...

as i read it again it seems as a flame thread ...buy it isnt. its a working solution (works perfect for me) for new players like me

he-she gain kill rights if kill him-her while stealing from you?

Not kill rights. Kill rights are something totally different.

They gain a limited engagement flag on you for the next 15 minutes.

So next time, take that info into account and dont be surprised when suddenly you find yourself without a mission ship because you got baited into getting a flag hat made you a valid target for them.

so whats the problem if you actually managed to kill him while he steals from you, scoop the mobile unit ,loot cargo and dock to a station for 15 minutes?
prepare a drink and smoke a bit with the PLEASURE that you killed a 5 years old char...?
i bet the feeling will be in my memory for too long

Well.

That guy lost a couple of mil ship for the price of you not being able to really play for 15 minutes.
This usually mean the guy wins as he is preventing the mission runner to play the game as he likes to play it.

But I do admire how you developed a tactic about it. It shows that you are not the typical mindless mission runner.


Also.

Character age nor SP amount tell something about a player.

You can have 100mil SP in industry skills, you will likely lose against a 3 mil pure PvP skilled player.

A character can be 8 years old. But who says he has been playing for 8 years. Its not uncommon that people take breaks from the game and eventually return and continue playing with the same character.

Keep a small fast pvp ship at your mission station.

Bookmark the rooms for the mission where the ninja turns up.

Reship

Go back to mission

Kill looter

Profit

This sounds to me like an excellent plan, I suggest you put it in practice.

I have seen a little bit of misinformation in this thread, so allow me to clear things up. First, almost nobody ninja salvages anymore, because T1 salvage is worth little to nothing. Nevertheless, mission invasion is rampant in the major hubs. The objective for some is to steal the loot, either by looting wrecks or killing mobile tractor units. Many ninjas just leave it at this. They will be suspect flagged when they land in your mission, or soon after, and so they are valid targets. They count on the fact that the average MR is too cowardly a beast to actually try anything, and they will run away if aggressed.

The other sort of ninja is looking to provoke the MR to shoot, and when you do so, he will kill you. When you shoot at him, he gets a 5 minute, not 15 minute (grrr Crimewatch) limited engagement flag, during which he can legally engage you. There are all sorts of evil tricks the well prepared ninja can use to make the most of this, and the end result will certainly be the MR paying a ransom or losing his fancy battleship to a T1 frigate or cruiser.

People who are good at this make literally billions of isk per day at it, and have way more fun than people shooting red crosses, so don't pity the ninja.

Oh, and if you are running level 4s, you don't qualify as a new player, so don't expect the ninja to pity you, either.

If you fire on him, he's allowed to fire back for the next 15 minutes (limited engagement timer). While a spot of PvP to interrupt the dullness of PvE may sound fun, it may end up costing you time or your mission ship, so... take care.

Anyway, good job outsmarting ninjas! It's good to see people using game mechanics and taking initiative to solve their own problems in a new way.

The OP is bordering flaming/trolling, but it does have real content as well, and the thread so far is fine. I will be keeping an eye out, though; please keep stuff polite and constructive.

I dont discourage him, Im just warning him of the results of his actions and prevent a whine thread and discouraged to keep playing after said 'salvage' frigate killed his BS.