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Neor Deninard
Blackwater Coalition Forces
Harkonnen Federation
#21 - 2013-11-28 08:41:13 UTC
Quote:

Bro, get out of battleships then. They made it quicker to warp short distances, so you're either making extremely long warps or you're lying.


They completey overdid the BS warpspeeds, I can read a frigging book now between warping through systems or to a mission site. The change is ridiculous on the slow/bigger hul size end.

It only annoys the heck out of the bigger ship users and serves no balancing purpose (making the smaller hulls faster still allows them to catch BS at the old speeds) other than to annoy the heck out of us.
Bobinu
Unsober
Last Picks
#22 - 2013-11-28 10:07:58 UTC
Not tried this recently but...........

Initiate warp to 0 and Jump, + 1 cycle of a 100mn AB on a BS used to speed up align and warp.

Please let me know if this still works?
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#23 - 2013-11-28 11:33:58 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Le'Mon Tichim wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Ghost Phius wrote:
The Orca is the ship got kicked in the nuts with these changes going from 3au/s to 2au/s. For those that don't think slowing a ship down a full 33% in warp try my Jita run of 26 jumps up 26 jumps back, you will then understand.

Freighters made out going from 0.75au/s to 1.4au/s.

All of this changes with the new warp speed implants that CCP has introduced. There will be demand, I just don't like how CCP left the Orca with a blooded mess where it's nads use to be.


I agree, the Orca is now freakin' painful to use. On the other hand, the Crane is just SICK fast now. Lol




Strangely, I've noticed little change in the Orca, and my alt has pretty subpar navigation skills. It really does feel like battleships got the short end of the stick, because my Abaddon took longer to drift out of warp that the Orca did...


Quite literally, it took 10-15 minutes for me to go from one safe, jump to adjoining system, dock and undock, and fly to a safe in that same system. Align time and getting up to jump speed was painful. If it wasn't a requisite for my exploration alt (Cynabal, Ishtar, & Loki fits) to do his thing I might reconsider. Thinking about trying to use just a yurt, but I seem to recall something about not being able to refit a T3 with it...

actually you are wrong. they added the ability to refit subs along with the depo in the expantion. try running a cloaky hauler + t3 for exploration. no need for the orca anymore.

A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.2.3

Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#24 - 2013-11-28 12:54:38 UTC
Neor Deninard wrote:
Quote:

Bro, get out of battleships then. They made it quicker to warp short distances, so you're either making extremely long warps or you're lying.


They completey overdid the BS warpspeeds, I can read a frigging book now between warping through systems or to a mission site. The change is ridiculous on the slow/bigger hul size end.

It only annoys the heck out of the bigger ship users and serves no balancing purpose (making the smaller hulls faster still allows them to catch BS at the old speeds) other than to annoy the heck out of us.

Hyperbole.

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.

Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
#25 - 2013-11-28 15:46:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Zor'katar
Bobinu wrote:
Not tried this recently but...........

Initiate warp to 0 and Jump, + 1 cycle of a 100mn AB on a BS used to speed up align and warp.

Please let me know if this still works?

They didn't change anything about aligning, so if that worked before, it will still work. (Unless you're in a ship that saw its agility/mass change as part of the expansion as well.) It won't affect anything about the actual warp, though, which is what people are complaining about here.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#26 - 2013-12-02 12:55:24 UTC
I love this community.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#27 - 2013-12-02 23:38:45 UTC
Ghost Phius wrote:
The Orca is the ship got kicked in the nuts with these changes going from 3au/s to 2au/s. For those that don't think slowing a ship down a full 33% in warp try my Jita run of 26 jumps up 26 jumps back, you will then understand.

Freighters made out going from 0.75au/s to 1.4au/s.

All of this changes with the new warp speed implants that CCP has introduced. There will be demand, I just don't like how CCP left the Orca with a blooded mess where it's nads use to be.



Orca is meant to be a mining support ship.. how often do you move your mining fleet 26 jumps ?
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-12-03 00:19:45 UTC
Cage Man wrote:
Ghost Phius wrote:
The Orca is the ship got kicked in the nuts with these changes going from 3au/s to 2au/s. For those that don't think slowing a ship down a full 33% in warp try my Jita run of 26 jumps up 26 jumps back, you will then understand.

Freighters made out going from 0.75au/s to 1.4au/s.

All of this changes with the new warp speed implants that CCP has introduced. There will be demand, I just don't like how CCP left the Orca with a blooded mess where it's nads use to be.



Orca is meant to be a mining support ship.. how often do you move your mining fleet 26 jumps ?

People use them as haulers. The trade route to Jita is an awesome place to lose one.
Dan Carter Murray
#29 - 2013-12-03 01:08:52 UTC
Elena Ranning wrote:
The new warp changes for battleships render the game very time consuming and boring. 9 manual jumps now take me around 20 minutes in a maelstrom with no inertia stabs.

I dont think "immersion" was the real reason behind this as some devs pointed out.

I, as well as many of you, can do plenty of other useful/entertaining things in such time.

Flaming Elena can begin.


web alt insta warp

http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com

Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#30 - 2013-12-03 01:52:31 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Cage Man wrote:
Ghost Phius wrote:
The Orca is the ship got kicked in the nuts with these changes going from 3au/s to 2au/s. For those that don't think slowing a ship down a full 33% in warp try my Jita run of 26 jumps up 26 jumps back, you will then understand.

Freighters made out going from 0.75au/s to 1.4au/s.

All of this changes with the new warp speed implants that CCP has introduced. There will be demand, I just don't like how CCP left the Orca with a blooded mess where it's nads use to be.



Orca is meant to be a mining support ship.. how often do you move your mining fleet 26 jumps ?

People use them as haulers. The trade route to Jita is an awesome place to lose one.


Yep, just wanted to sound like CCP for a bit ;)
Deunan Tenephais
#31 - 2013-12-03 03:33:55 UTC
Zor'katar wrote:
They didn't change anything about aligning, so if that worked before, it will still work. (Unless you're in a ship that saw its agility/mass change as part of the expansion as well.) It won't affect anything about the actual warp, though, which is what people are complaining about here.

Then large warp speed rigs could become a staple now, hum ?
Good to know.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-12-03 05:08:36 UTC
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
web alt insta warp

People know neat tech, but still don't know the difference between aligning and warping. Duh.
Crellion
Nano Rhinos
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#33 - 2013-12-03 08:29:44 UTC
Tul Breetai wrote:
Neor Deninard wrote:
Quote:

Bro, get out of battleships then. They made it quicker to warp short distances, so you're either making extremely long warps or you're lying.


They completey overdid the BS warpspeeds, I can read a frigging book now between warping through systems or to a mission site. The change is ridiculous on the slow/bigger hul size end.

It only annoys the heck out of the bigger ship users and serves no balancing purpose (making the smaller hulls faster still allows them to catch BS at the old speeds) other than to annoy the heck out of us.


Hyperbole.



Seeing as your are linking the warp speed table which shows BSs still slower at all ranges ... should I link the same thing and name the link "reading comprehension"?

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