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Setzar Arthie
Equally Worse
#1 - 2013-11-18 20:36:37 UTC
i am looking to start in a wormhole with myself an alt and a friend... what are some recomendations? i would love i think a c2...maybe c3 at the largest. anyone able to point out some things i need to do and such to get started in one.
Hayley Erquilenne
My Heart Will Go On
#2 - 2013-11-18 20:52:44 UTC
My recommendation is that you contract me your stuff and quit eve.
Setzar Arthie
Equally Worse
#3 - 2013-11-18 20:54:05 UTC
Hayley Erquilenne wrote:
My recommendation is that you contract me your stuff and quit eve.




funny but no. i have done incursions a little null sec living and highse i want something different...
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-11-18 21:04:44 UTC
join an established corp.
doesnt have to be a big one, just some people who know what theyre doing.

Short of that, youre highly unlikely to find an empty C2 that has anything other than a C5/NS static.

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Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#5 - 2013-11-18 22:32:19 UTC
You see that sticky at the top of the page where it says "Start Here!"? You should start there.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#6 - 2013-11-18 22:54:52 UTC
Basically what Jack said.

Wormhole life is very different to life in any other part of space. It'll take a lot of money, time and effort to safely establish yourself with absolutely no guarantee you'll find the type of system you hope for. Unless you're extremely lucky to find a vacant system, or strong enough to evict others, then you're best to ride along with another corp who's already done the hard work to get established, and who's experience will enable them to teach you a thing or two.

Of course though you could always just launch in solo, balls-deep and learn the hard way. Nothing wrong with that if you can afford it.

If you're inclined to take Jack's advice then maybe give me a shout ingame sometime. I just might know someone who knows someone who might be looking for new pilots.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-11-18 23:11:39 UTC
Blah blah blah,

You can do whatever you want. When I started EVE I joined a corp of friends from other games I had known. Among other things they had a C2. Being a noob I realized very quickly that I couldn't handle a C2. I also knew that I had to try WH life.

So one day I happened to find an empty C1/LS while scanning, dropped in an alt and made plans.

A mere 4 months into EVE me and my alt account moved into a C1. I had saved up for awhile to just afford the POS etc. I had to haul everything in via lowsec in my trusty Iteron V.

It was the most fun I ever had. I did get lonely after awhile so I left. Did some things back in k-space (a little FW etc).

Eventually I moved back into a C3 with a friend. We then grew a bit in size and moved up once again.

There are times I wish I were just a part of a larger corp. RL gets in the way of me building our corp up to a bigger size. But we still love the WH life as it is.

So yea, joining an established corp is a valid path as well. But there is nothing wrong with striking out on your own. It has made for one of the best EVE adventures I've ever had.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-11-19 00:51:46 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Blah blah blah,

You can do whatever you want. When I started EVE I joined a corp of friends from other games I had known. Among other things they had a C2. Being a noob I realized very quickly that I couldn't handle a C2. I also knew that I had to try WH life.

So one day I happened to find an empty C1/LS while scanning, dropped in an alt and made plans.

A mere 4 months into EVE me and my alt account moved into a C1. I had saved up for awhile to just afford the POS etc. I had to haul everything in via lowsec in my trusty Iteron V.

It was the most fun I ever had. I did get lonely after awhile so I left. Did some things back in k-space (a little FW etc).

Eventually I moved back into a C3 with a friend. We then grew a bit in size and moved up once again.

There are times I wish I were just a part of a larger corp. RL gets in the way of me building our corp up to a bigger size. But we still love the WH life as it is.

So yea, joining an established corp is a valid path as well. But there is nothing wrong with striking out on your own. It has made for one of the best EVE adventures I've ever had.

C1s don't count ;)
sure, if youre so noob that you can't fly a T1 fit BC and want to WH, then yeah you can find a ton of empty C1s.

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Riel Saigo
Facta.Non.Verba
#9 - 2013-11-19 01:16:01 UTC
C2s are kind of PvP highways. If that's what you're after, then go for a C2.

But if you're just looking for somewhere quiet to PvE, gas mine, get the hang of wormholes, and use as a relatively safe base of operations, then you're better off in a C3. Those things don't have as many connections inviting trouble.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-11-19 01:59:56 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
C1s don't count ;)
sure, if youre so noob that you can't fly a T1 fit BC and want to WH, then yeah you can find a ton of empty C1s.


Well the WH class wasn't really the point of the post but ok.
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#11 - 2013-11-19 08:04:20 UTC
C1s have their specific use. They are for PI and solo POS industrialists. You should aim for highest hole possible for your group. I is devised from your tank. ;-) Rule of thumb is
C1 whatever
C2 400DPS
C3 700DPS
C4 1500DPS
C5-6 triage archon
If you are able to tank said kind of damage tere is no reason not to rat in this class.

You have another two options and it is wether to stage in your ratting hole (lets say C3) or to stage in other class (C2) with static to your desired ratting class.

when starting your wspace live prepare to d oimmense amount of hauling especially in time of setting up your pos.
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#12 - 2013-11-19 08:09:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Xen Solarus
The first challenge is finding an unoccupied wormhole. I'd recommend offering a reward for finding one that meets your specifications, tho be sure to only pay once you're there. Too many people out there happy to take your isk for nothing! Then, i'd highly recommend a large tower, with at least 6 of each type of ECM (though i'd recommend more!), 6 small and around 20 medium guns (whichever type your tower gives bonus' for), as well as a good number of warp disruptors/scramblers. You can have alot more guns on top of this if you're willing to go full-on death-star, just anchor them as backups in case of attack. 2 of each shield hardener, though i wouldn't worry about putting them online unless attacked. On top of this is all the facilities you might be interested in using. In addition to the obvious ones, i'd recommend the Polymer reactor array and associated silos, experimental lab, component construction array and subsystem assembly array. This gives you everything you need for T3 production. Everything else is additional, and depends on what sort of things you'd be interested in constructing in wormhole space, if any.

Placement of batteries is important, you should have a mix of guns, ECM and warp disruptors in the upper, lower, left, right, forward and back positions, but not too close as to be vunerable to hit and run bomb attacks. A basic idea can be found here, though there are many differing thoughts on the subject of battery placement. You will also need the skills to man the guns, at least 2 or 3 of you to be effective. Unmanned guns are next to useless.

Your final consideration is fuel costs, and the logistics of getting your stuff in and out. Don't listen to the haters, it's more than possible for a tiny amount of people to live from a well setup POS in C2 - C3 wormholes. No-one is going to want the hassle of attacking a death-star POS without capitals. Cool Your choice between C2 and C3 should be based upon your ability to fly T3 cruisers, if you can then definately go for a C3, as the majority of the sites can be solo'd in those.

Personally, i think this is one of the best guides out there, and i remember reading it before setting up my own POS.

Best of luck!

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
Caius Beriat
O'Coin Enterprises
#13 - 2013-11-19 11:00:20 UTC
My suggestion would be to join a proper corp. You'll soon get bored with just the 2/3 of you.
Nanyana Diya
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2013-12-02 17:54:58 UTC
I would also suggest you join a WH corp first. Just live with them for a few months and then you have enough knowledge to go out on your own.
Amrastion Tasartir
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#15 - 2013-12-02 19:47:17 UTC
nvm
Nalestom Zypher
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-12-02 20:02:08 UTC
I highly recommend joining an established corporation (like mine! =D) to get your feet wet with wormhole life. The vast majority of wormhole occupants are very friendly compared to other Eve players, but they're not so friendly that they'd forgive you making mistakes - whether it be POS permissions/setup, laziness, or lack of manpower, you can rest assured that somebody will make sure to remind you that you're new to wormhole life.

Again, joining an established corporation is the best option for players looking to live the life of a wormholer. You can jump into it without any experience, but it will be a very expensive and frustrating experience.

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Rall Mekin
End-of-Line
#17 - 2013-12-02 23:00:06 UTC
Setzar Arthie wrote:
i am looking to start in a wormhole with myself an alt and a friend... what are some recomendations? i would love i think a c2...maybe c3 at the largest. anyone able to point out some things i need to do and such to get started in one.



Its gonna depend a late on what you guys fly. I'd honestly suggest starting from high sec day tripping, just to get used to scanning and exploring.

If you can field battlecruisers, you can do through a c2 pretty easily if setup right. If you can field t3s, you can run c3s pretty dang easily as well, both solo and in small groups. There's a few setups I can point you to.

In general:

1. Have fun
2. Make more than you loose or you are doing it wrong
3. You are never alone and are probably being watched/stalked all the time
4. Reading is your friend
5. If you do settle in wormhole space, you will make most of your money out of your static (in general) in anything lower than a c5

Also, please eventually grow yourself into a small pvp corp and go around raining hell death on people.
Glyndi
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#18 - 2013-12-02 23:09:53 UTC
Setzar Arthie wrote:
i am looking to start in a wormhole with myself an alt and a friend... what are some recomendations? i would love i think a c2...maybe c3 at the largest. anyone able to point out some things i need to do and such to get started in one.



We would be happy to 'show you the ropes'. Join us temporarily and when you feel like your ready we can release you into the wild!

Or stay and be a H0NEYBADGER....