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I really like the improvements to the new texture - the tiny lens-flares (near the front) really help to add a sense of scale.

I think touches like that could really help some other ships, like the Primae/Noctis, which at times look too toy-like. The saving grace (for scale) on those ships are the tiny red lights, which I'm happy to see on a lot of the 'new' ships.

What looks really odd though, right now (on the Raven) are the orange 'windows' on the rear section... Interesting touch/contrast but very weird...

Back in the days I didn't like the model of the Raven, however once I started flying it myself it really started living it's own life...
The only ship I still really dislike is the MOA - Omg it's a cube with an attached head & tale... YUKKK!!

The statement about propulsion was of a general nature, but it definitely applies to spacecraft’s attitude control thrusters as they also have to work around the vehicle’s center of mass. This does not imply any visual symmetry whatsoever.

You completely missed the whole point of the importance of the vehicle’s operating environment, as the rest of your post vividly shows.


Your example vehicles’ designs were hugely influenced by their performance envelopes that include atmospheric reentry, and in the case of the Apollo and the Soyuz, the physical constraints of the launch vehicle’s payload shroud tolerances (which are also influenced by the aerodynamic considerations to a large degree). This makes these examples irrelevant to this argument as the last thing that you would expect the Raven to do is enter the atmosphere for an aerodynamic or a ballistic landing.


You wouldn’t know sound engineering principles if they bit you on the arse.

Just like the new Scorpion that looks incredibly boring.

Not that I'm saying the new Scorpion is bad... it's just... kinda bland shape wise and that symmetrical Raven is a lot less interesting to look at than what we have.

The Raven model is in my oppinion an iconic part of EVE and it would be a bad thing changing it too much.

Back before I could fly one, I kinda despised it... but it grew on me and I'd say that I wouldn't want the basic shape of the Raven to be any different.

There are many different oppinions in the EVE community regarding symetry/asymetry of ship designs. I'd say that the widespread use of asymetric ship designs comming from the CCP art department over the years makes things interesting. If all ships were symetrical, EVE would just look like any other space game, just with more polish.

Also, the talk regarding engineering and distribution of thrust on an asymetric hull would perhaps be more relevant if the mechanics of flying in space was more in line with actual space flight mechanics, and not a behaviour similar to aerodynamic flight like it is in EVE today.

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I'm with you.

The colors for the ship look fine, but the whole thing needs redone like the Scorpion.. What good does the paint make if you dont fix the vehicle moving it around.. The raven is still WAY broken.. IT's UGLY!!!

New raven looks great from what I have seen, i have conflicted feelings about the navy skins however. The drake is the next thing that needs an overhaul visually.

I like the raven model, especially the new one, don't really like the legoblock navy raven though.

If anything the right wing(seen from the front) could be abit bigger as it's abit too short/small compared to the left one, but don't add anything to it , just make it slightly bigger.

At least finish the paint job, you have all the extremities painted with the orange strip, antennas, wings, engines why did you leave the ends of 2 struts under the wing with the carbuncle unpainted as well, feels like you ran out of paint, asymmetrical hull with an asymmetrical paint job , surely thats to much asymmetricalness (don't think that's an actual word) for any one pod pilot to bear ????