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Acquiring PLEX

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Grogvar Taredi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-11-30 19:22:51 UTC
Hello, I've heard that it's actually possible to aquire 1 plex if you do things right as an explorer right at the first month. How exactly is this possible?

I ask because I have not much playtime per day thanks to college and work, I don't want to pay a full month for something I would not enjoy in full, so PLEX is what made me choose EVE over others MMOs
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2013-11-30 19:42:20 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
PLEX is something you can only get from other players (who buy it from CCP directly or through a trusted 3rd party). They are not generated from anything else.

Players sell their PLEX on the in-game market... you just need enough in-game money (ISK) to do this (which you gain through activities like Exploration).


To be honest though... I would not recommend using PLEX for your account. Unless you can make absurd amounts of money rather quickly (we're talking 600+ million ISK every 30 days) it quickly becomes a second job to keep your account active... and you won't be able to really "enjoy" the game.
Joran Jackson
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#3 - 2013-11-30 19:42:32 UTC
Its a very standard refrain from new players, but if you set out to make a PLEX in your first month you will burn out.

There aren't many exceptions. With the skills you are equipped with as a new player, it will be a huge grind to make your PLEX every month. Plan on paying a subscription for your first year. In the second half of your first year if you get enough steady income for regular PLEX, buddy invite yourself and create a second account, and then if you are smart you'll never pay for Eve again.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-11-30 19:51:00 UTC
Pay for your subscription with real money. It's very hard to generate 600 million + expenses per month as a brand new player. It basically reduces to you grinding all month to earn the ISK to pay for another month of grinding to earn the ISK to pay for another month ...

It's a game, it's supposed to be fun, not a second job.
Grogvar Taredi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-11-30 20:08:45 UTC
Ok then, thanks, let's see how my humble salary holds up the paying. By the way, it's 15 dollars per month right? I've bought the Amarr Explorer Starter Pack from Green Man Gaming, but I still haven't redeemed it, I'm using the 14 days trial. If I redeem it now, will I lose the trial time? Do you know if I can use the green man gaming code to redeem it on steam? The steam subscription is cheaper in my country (Brazil)
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2013-11-30 20:21:36 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
If you upgrade your account during the trial then you will get 30 days added to the time you have left on the trial.

As for costs...

- there is a one time "activation" fee of 5 to 10 dollars (someone double check this, I forgot the exact amount) when you start playing EVE. You will never have to pay it again even if you un-sub and come back at a later date.

- sub costs are ~$15 per month... but if you know you'll be around for awhile you can save some money in the long run by buying larger blocks of gametime up-front (~$131.88 buys you 1 year of time on EVE... averaging around $10.99 a month).
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-11-30 20:22:39 UTC
Trial days remaining are added to subscription time, not lost.

$15 a month or less if you use a credit card and pay for 3, 6 or more months at once. I have a recurring 3-month subscription set up.
Grogvar Taredi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-11-30 20:38:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Grogvar Taredi
I undestand, but I can't pay for my subscription via steam if my account was created here in the site? It's actually costing $10,50 1 month for brazilians there.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#9 - 2013-11-30 20:54:31 UTC
You can indeed raise enough ISK to pay for a PLEX through exploration in your first month. Just train up your hacking and archaeology skills, head out there with your T1 astrometry frigate and make your fortune. Note that exploration income is sporadic: you will go through dozens of sites making 60k ISK or less per site, then hit a very rich site worth millions.

As well as pure exploration sites there are DED complexes and combat sites which end up being worth a pretty penny, but like exploration sites they are sporadic: dozens of worthless sites followed by a single "jackpot" site which makes you very rich.

Of course heading out to low sec will boost your income as long as you know how to stay alive out there (you'll do much better flying a covops frigate).

Fortune favours the brave.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#10 - 2013-11-30 22:04:57 UTC
Some players have reported problems running multiple accounts with steam. So you might be locking yourself to one account.

Also, as Mara says, it IS doable, but I still don't recommend it, especially since you said you have limited game time, because as the others said it is a major grind with low skills and no resources. I could pay for my account with plex, but that actually lowers my fun, so I pay my subscription.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Lady Areola Fappington
#11 - 2013-11-30 22:26:11 UTC
I plan to pay RL for my subs when they come up, and treat the ability to buy a PLEX with ISK as a pleasant surprise when the opportunity occurs.

It helps prevent burnout that way, and so far, all the newbies I've introduced to EVE prefer doing it that way. Eventually, you'll be making enough per month to PLEX out anyway if you so choose.

7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#12 - 2013-11-30 23:37:56 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
I plan to pay RL for my subs when they come up, and treat the ability to buy a PLEX with ISK as a pleasant surprise when the opportunity occurs.

This is the way to go.

Having to grind X amount of whatever will cause a burn out and most of all it will not be fun, which is the reason to play any game in the first place.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-12-01 02:43:05 UTC
these guys right. If you want good pve play different games. there are however good ways to make lots of isk through PvP but it requires you to be clever, underhanded, and immoral.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#14 - 2013-12-01 22:18:39 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
these guys right. If you want good pve play different games. there are however good ways to make lots of isk through PvP but it requires you to be clever, underhanded, and immoral.


There is nothing immoral about being competitive in EVE and using deception.

OP, if you are good at social engineering and manipulation (RL skills, not in game ones), you can definitely get enough to fund a PLEX by stealing it from other players. If you join a corporation you can shoot your new corpmates in highsec legally - if you find one flying an expensive ship and can outplay them, you might be able to ransom them for 500m ISK or more.

Likewise, you can use various tricks with the contract system to deceive people into giving you sizable sums of ISK.

One of the best tricks around is to join a corporation that bases some way away from where your stuff is, ask for a freighter pilot to move your stuff, and then send the pilot a courier contract with a high collateral to move some bulky junk (assembled ships, etc). Then undock in a high damage ship (Destroyer or Cruiser as a newbie), get the freighter into structure, demand a ransom, then dishonor it, pop the freighter and cause the contract to fail (meaning you keep the collateral).

These actions are no more 'immoral' than deceiving a soccer goalkeeper by feinting left before kicking right on a penalty kick, or feigning disappointment when your chess opponent takes a bishop you sacrificed as bait to trap their rook, or deceiving a poker player into believing your top set is only second pair.

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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#15 - 2013-12-02 03:40:36 UTC
Read the EVE university site. and maybe even join them ... it sounds like you might fit in there.

They have guides to making isk and they outline some low hanging fruit of items you can aquire through questlines the first time through that are worth quite a lot.

You can make enough to pay for a plex with the time you might spend watching TV or playing foosball.. still a lot of hours but low key ones to be sure.

It might give you some ideas of what you'll enjoy in the game by joining a group like that and trying some of their fleet roams etc.

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DeAira Skord
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-12-02 04:45:09 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

These actions are no more 'immoral' than deceiving a soccer goalkeeper by feinting left before kicking right on a penalty kick, or feigning disappointment when your chess opponent takes a bishop you sacrificed as bait to trap their rook, or deceiving a poker player into believing your top set is only second pair.


Sociopaths can justify anything.

If you want to play without honor or character, that's your choice, but don't try to justify it. The fact that you have to defend your actions shows the weakness in your position.

Grogvar Taredi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-12-02 16:18:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Grogvar Taredi
Diomedes Calypso wrote:
Read the EVE university site. and maybe even join them ... it sounds like you might fit in there.

They have guides to making isk and they outline some low hanging fruit of items you can aquire through questlines the first time through that are worth quite a lot.

You can make enough to pay for a plex with the time you might spend watching TV or playing foosball.. still a lot of hours but low key ones to be sure.

It might give you some ideas of what you'll enjoy in the game by joining a group like that and trying some of their fleet roams etc.

Sorry for not responding for a while, but yeah, shortly after this topic I found the University and I'm just waiting for being called for an interview. Yeah, I might fit nicely in there, I even see myself sticking to it after I graduate to help new players (something I like doing in MMOS)

And Sabriz, I'm not like that, I'm always fair in the games I play. You can say all you want about how many money I can earn trough a little above the law methods, but I will always do what is right, that's how I roleplay.